Trowbridge residents express bail hostel fears

Wiltshire Times: Green Lane residents close to the  former care home that they  fear will become a bail hostel Green Lane residents close to the former care home that they fear will become a bail hostel

Residents in Green Lane, Trowbridge, are fearful that an application to renovate a former care home could lead to a bail hostel opening on their doorstep.

They are concerned about plans, submitted by EOA Properties Limited to Wiltshire Council, to convert the former Greenwood House into six flats and an office.

Following a lack of consultation from the firm, based in Northampton, residents researched the submission and found that applicant Leo O’Conner is a director of Maplyn Care Services.

The company offers placements of up to two years for offenders who are spared criminal sentences and people with mental health conditions.

Richard Hall, who lives in Green Lane with his partner Kate Drew and their children; Jasmine, 12, Tom, 10, and Emilia, eight, said: “We feel we have been deceived by the people who have put the application in, as everything feels like it has been deliberately done under a cloud.

“All the residents are fearful of what is coming and wondering why there has not been a significant public liaison with us.”

Residents have put banners up around the property against it becoming one of Maplyn’s centres and contacted their Wiltshire Councillor Dennis Drewett and MP Andrew Murrison about the plans.

Cllr Drewett said: “If the planning application is as put forward for flats then I cannot see any issue with it, but there are a few connections which suggest there could be an ulterior motive.

“If Wiltshire Council’s officers recommend it for approval I have requested the application goes to the planning committee meeting so residents can have their say.”

The deadline for comments on the application passed on Wednesday and Wiltshire Council has written to the applicant asking for more details about their proposals.

Darren Allen, of Datum CAD Services Ltd, the agent representing the applicant, said: “We cannot comment on the plans at the moment.”

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6:59pm Sat 18 Jan 14

sphere123 says...

Come on people where is your charitable heart? Yet again stereotyping people with drug and alcohol problems rather than being a good neighbour.
We have become a society of individuals focussed on our own goals rather than being "a good samaritan" Where do people propose people live?
Come on people where is your charitable heart? Yet again stereotyping people with drug and alcohol problems rather than being a good neighbour. We have become a society of individuals focussed on our own goals rather than being "a good samaritan" Where do people propose people live? sphere123

8:46pm Sat 18 Jan 14

jigsaw 5 says...

with another 1200 houses being built in Paxcroft area i'm sure not everyone of them owners will be perfect!!
with another 1200 houses being built in Paxcroft area i'm sure not everyone of them owners will be perfect!! jigsaw 5

10:28am Sun 19 Jan 14

frankie007 says...

Just another bunch of selfish NIMBYs. Like the Wellhead lot.

Self satisfied, self centered a******es
Just another bunch of selfish NIMBYs. Like the Wellhead lot. Self satisfied, self centered a******es frankie007

3:40pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Room101 says...

i know, build it in the middle of Dartmoor. There they can rehabilitate into society. OH no there's nobody around.
i know, build it in the middle of Dartmoor. There they can rehabilitate into society. OH no there's nobody around. Room101

1:09pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Mrs Donnyfly says...

Local resident Richard Hall chuntered "All the residents are fearful of what is coming and wondering why there has not been a significant public liaison with us.”

Why do you think there should have been? Did you liaise with local residents before you moved into your home?
Local resident Richard Hall chuntered "All the residents are fearful of what is coming and wondering why there has not been a significant public liaison with us.” Why do you think there should have been? Did you liaise with local residents before you moved into your home? Mrs Donnyfly

7:20pm Tue 21 Jan 14

politepanda says...

sphere123, Mrs Donnyfly, frankie007, perhaps you could volunteer YOUR neighbourhoods for this bail hostel? Far better that they're placed with neighbours who'd LOVE to see them - than those who wouldn't.
sphere123, Mrs Donnyfly, frankie007, perhaps you could volunteer YOUR neighbourhoods for this bail hostel? Far better that they're placed with neighbours who'd LOVE to see them - than those who wouldn't. politepanda

9:43pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Mrs Donnyfly says...

politepanda wrote:
sphere123, Mrs Donnyfly, frankie007, perhaps you could volunteer YOUR neighbourhoods for this bail hostel? Far better that they're placed with neighbours who'd LOVE to see them - than those who wouldn't.
Errr politepanda, there is already a bail hostel in the neighbourhood in which I live, although you wouldn't think so - the world hasn't ended.
[quote][p][bold]politepanda[/bold] wrote: sphere123, Mrs Donnyfly, frankie007, perhaps you could volunteer YOUR neighbourhoods for this bail hostel? Far better that they're placed with neighbours who'd LOVE to see them - than those who wouldn't.[/p][/quote]Errr politepanda, there is already a bail hostel in the neighbourhood in which I live, although you wouldn't think so - the world hasn't ended. Mrs Donnyfly

7:04am Wed 22 Jan 14

politepanda says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
politepanda wrote:
sphere123, Mrs Donnyfly, frankie007, perhaps you could volunteer YOUR neighbourhoods for this bail hostel? Far better that they're placed with neighbours who'd LOVE to see them - than those who wouldn't.
Errr politepanda, there is already a bail hostel in the neighbourhood in which I live, although you wouldn't think so - the world hasn't ended.
Brilliant news - it works in your area, for you. Others STILL have the right to object to something they're afraid of and don't understand - so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? Bit more constructive than name calling and labelling them nimby's!
With some honesty and a lot more information - there might not be such opposition to this project.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politepanda[/bold] wrote: sphere123, Mrs Donnyfly, frankie007, perhaps you could volunteer YOUR neighbourhoods for this bail hostel? Far better that they're placed with neighbours who'd LOVE to see them - than those who wouldn't.[/p][/quote]Errr politepanda, there is already a bail hostel in the neighbourhood in which I live, although you wouldn't think so - the world hasn't ended.[/p][/quote]Brilliant news - it works in your area, for you. Others STILL have the right to object to something they're afraid of and don't understand - so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? Bit more constructive than name calling and labelling them nimby's! With some honesty and a lot more information - there might not be such opposition to this project. politepanda

9:17am Wed 22 Jan 14

frankie007 says...

politepanda wrote:
Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
politepanda wrote:
sphere123, Mrs Donnyfly, frankie007, perhaps you could volunteer YOUR neighbourhoods for this bail hostel? Far better that they're placed with neighbours who'd LOVE to see them - than those who wouldn't.
Errr politepanda, there is already a bail hostel in the neighbourhood in which I live, although you wouldn't think so - the world hasn't ended.
Brilliant news - it works in your area, for you. Others STILL have the right to object to something they're afraid of and don't understand - so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? Bit more constructive than name calling and labelling them nimby's!
With some honesty and a lot more information - there might not be such opposition to this project.
What is underhand about buying a property for a legitimate purpose?

Do housing associations consult with local residents every time they move some piece of scum onto a housing estate?

Give me a bail hostel any day.
[quote][p][bold]politepanda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politepanda[/bold] wrote: sphere123, Mrs Donnyfly, frankie007, perhaps you could volunteer YOUR neighbourhoods for this bail hostel? Far better that they're placed with neighbours who'd LOVE to see them - than those who wouldn't.[/p][/quote]Errr politepanda, there is already a bail hostel in the neighbourhood in which I live, although you wouldn't think so - the world hasn't ended.[/p][/quote]Brilliant news - it works in your area, for you. Others STILL have the right to object to something they're afraid of and don't understand - so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? Bit more constructive than name calling and labelling them nimby's! With some honesty and a lot more information - there might not be such opposition to this project.[/p][/quote]What is underhand about buying a property for a legitimate purpose? Do housing associations consult with local residents every time they move some piece of scum onto a housing estate? Give me a bail hostel any day. frankie007

11:36am Wed 22 Jan 14

Mrs Donnyfly says...

politepanda said - "so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? "

The local residents witter about not being consulted yet it would appear they have already made up their minds they don't want a bail hostel near them. The slightest whiff of a possibility that one might be coming they surround the building with banners saying they don't want it - not banners saying they are aggrieved for not being consulted.
politepanda said - "so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? " The local residents witter about not being consulted yet it would appear they have already made up their minds they don't want a bail hostel near them. The slightest whiff of a possibility that one might be coming they surround the building with banners saying they don't want it - not banners saying they are aggrieved for not being consulted. Mrs Donnyfly

1:26pm Wed 22 Jan 14

New 2 Trow says...

The application can only be considered on its merits and currently it is not for a bail hostel, its the residents that seem to have come to this assumption by themselves and are now getting wound up about it!

Applying for planning permission doesn't include the responsibility to ask all and sundry what they think of what you are proposing (plus other uses that aren't the subject of the application).
The application can only be considered on its merits and currently it is not for a bail hostel, its the residents that seem to have come to this assumption by themselves and are now getting wound up about it! Applying for planning permission doesn't include the responsibility to ask all and sundry what they think of what you are proposing (plus other uses that aren't the subject of the application). New 2 Trow

7:04pm Wed 22 Jan 14

politepanda says...

There is no clear definition of what the "end product" will be. The locals aren't "assuming" - they're looking into what the previous planning applicant has been involved in.
There is no clear definition of what the "end product" will be. The locals aren't "assuming" - they're looking into what the previous planning applicant has been involved in. politepanda

7:54pm Wed 22 Jan 14

New 2 Trow says...

The application is for six flats and an office therefore that's what the planning authority considers not what the applicant has applied for previously.
The application is for six flats and an office therefore that's what the planning authority considers not what the applicant has applied for previously. New 2 Trow

5:07pm Thu 23 Jan 14

politepanda says...

Six flats and an office. A bail hostel, in other words. Why not simply call it a bail hostel? Because people might object.....
Six flats and an office. A bail hostel, in other words. Why not simply call it a bail hostel? Because people might object..... politepanda

5:09pm Thu 23 Jan 14

politepanda says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
politepanda said - "so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? "

The local residents witter about not being consulted yet it would appear they have already made up their minds they don't want a bail hostel near them. The slightest whiff of a possibility that one might be coming they surround the building with banners saying they don't want it - not banners saying they are aggrieved for not being consulted.
You feel they have no right to object? Why? Because you've decided thy shouldn't??
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: politepanda said - "so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? " The local residents witter about not being consulted yet it would appear they have already made up their minds they don't want a bail hostel near them. The slightest whiff of a possibility that one might be coming they surround the building with banners saying they don't want it - not banners saying they are aggrieved for not being consulted.[/p][/quote]You feel they have no right to object? Why? Because you've decided thy shouldn't?? politepanda

8:19pm Thu 23 Jan 14

frankie007 says...

politepanda wrote:
Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
politepanda said - "so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? "

The local residents witter about not being consulted yet it would appear they have already made up their minds they don't want a bail hostel near them. The slightest whiff of a possibility that one might be coming they surround the building with banners saying they don't want it - not banners saying they are aggrieved for not being consulted.
You feel they have no right to object? Why? Because you've decided thy shouldn't??
Tell you what pal, I wouldn't want you for a neighbour. So would you agree that I have a right to object if you decided to move in next door?

How would I know before it was too late?
[quote][p][bold]politepanda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: politepanda said - "so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? " The local residents witter about not being consulted yet it would appear they have already made up their minds they don't want a bail hostel near them. The slightest whiff of a possibility that one might be coming they surround the building with banners saying they don't want it - not banners saying they are aggrieved for not being consulted.[/p][/quote]You feel they have no right to object? Why? Because you've decided thy shouldn't??[/p][/quote]Tell you what pal, I wouldn't want you for a neighbour. So would you agree that I have a right to object if you decided to move in next door? How would I know before it was too late? frankie007

10:35pm Thu 23 Jan 14

politepanda says...

frankie007 wrote:
politepanda wrote:
Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
politepanda said - "so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? "

The local residents witter about not being consulted yet it would appear they have already made up their minds they don't want a bail hostel near them. The slightest whiff of a possibility that one might be coming they surround the building with banners saying they don't want it - not banners saying they are aggrieved for not being consulted.
You feel they have no right to object? Why? Because you've decided thy shouldn't??
Tell you what pal, I wouldn't want you for a neighbour. So would you agree that I have a right to object if you decided to move in next door?

How would I know before it was too late?
You wouldn't, would you?
[quote][p][bold]frankie007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politepanda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: politepanda said - "so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? " The local residents witter about not being consulted yet it would appear they have already made up their minds they don't want a bail hostel near them. The slightest whiff of a possibility that one might be coming they surround the building with banners saying they don't want it - not banners saying they are aggrieved for not being consulted.[/p][/quote]You feel they have no right to object? Why? Because you've decided thy shouldn't??[/p][/quote]Tell you what pal, I wouldn't want you for a neighbour. So would you agree that I have a right to object if you decided to move in next door? How would I know before it was too late?[/p][/quote]You wouldn't, would you? politepanda

12:15am Fri 24 Jan 14

Mrs Donnyfly says...

politepanda wrote:
Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
politepanda said - "so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? "

The local residents witter about not being consulted yet it would appear they have already made up their minds they don't want a bail hostel near them. The slightest whiff of a possibility that one might be coming they surround the building with banners saying they don't want it - not banners saying they are aggrieved for not being consulted.
You feel they have no right to object? Why? Because you've decided thy shouldn't??
That's an odd accusation considering I haven't mentioned that they have no right to object. As far as I'm concerned they can object all the live long day. All I've done is criticize their objection. I hope you haven't decided that I shouldn't?
[quote][p][bold]politepanda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: politepanda said - "so instead of using underhand tactics and trying to "hide" the intended use of a building - why doesn't someone go and talk to them? " The local residents witter about not being consulted yet it would appear they have already made up their minds they don't want a bail hostel near them. The slightest whiff of a possibility that one might be coming they surround the building with banners saying they don't want it - not banners saying they are aggrieved for not being consulted.[/p][/quote]You feel they have no right to object? Why? Because you've decided thy shouldn't??[/p][/quote]That's an odd accusation considering I haven't mentioned that they have no right to object. As far as I'm concerned they can object all the live long day. All I've done is criticize their objection. I hope you haven't decided that I shouldn't? Mrs Donnyfly

7:04am Fri 24 Jan 14

politepanda says...

Wonderful how some find all the sympathy and empathy in the world to support this kind of project - in someone else's street! And so easy to criticise and vilify those who object.
Like any project that may impact on the lives of those already there - the locals have the right to object.
And Mrs D - I note there's a bail hostel "in your neighbourhood" - really? I take it you don't live next door, then?
Wonderful how some find all the sympathy and empathy in the world to support this kind of project - in someone else's street! And so easy to criticise and vilify those who object. Like any project that may impact on the lives of those already there - the locals have the right to object. And Mrs D - I note there's a bail hostel "in your neighbourhood" - really? I take it you don't live next door, then? politepanda

10:43am Fri 24 Jan 14

Mrs Donnyfly says...

notscot droned on - sorry, politepanda droned on - "And Mrs D - I note there's a bail hostel "in your neighbourhood" - really? I take it you don't live next door, then?

Why do you "take it" I don't live next door then? You initially suggested that I - among others - should volunteer to have a bail hostel in my neighbourhood, I replied that there already was one in my neighbourhood. Why there should be any "taking" of the proximity of it to my house from that limited information is beyond me.

"Like any project that may impact on the lives of those already there - the locals have the right to object."

Nobody has said they don't have the right.

"Wonderful how some find all the sympathy and empathy in the world to support this kind of project - in someone else's street! And so easy to criticise and vilify those who object."

Whether we agree on the concept of bail hostels or not, the fact is they have to be located somewhere. So I have to ask, who is being the most selfish and disagreeable here? Those who kick up a fuss and demand that one is located nowhere near them, and would most likely consider it a victory if it went somewhere else, or those who see that attitude for what it is and say so?
notscot droned on - sorry, politepanda droned on - "And Mrs D - I note there's a bail hostel "in your neighbourhood" - really? I take it you don't live next door, then? Why do you "take it" I don't live next door then? You initially suggested that I - among others - should volunteer to have a bail hostel in my neighbourhood, I replied that there already was one in my neighbourhood. Why there should be any "taking" of the proximity of it to my house from that limited information is beyond me. "Like any project that may impact on the lives of those already there - the locals have the right to object." Nobody has said they don't have the right. "Wonderful how some find all the sympathy and empathy in the world to support this kind of project - in someone else's street! And so easy to criticise and vilify those who object." Whether we agree on the concept of bail hostels or not, the fact is they have to be located somewhere. So I have to ask, who is being the most selfish and disagreeable here? Those who kick up a fuss and demand that one is located nowhere near them, and would most likely consider it a victory if it went somewhere else, or those who see that attitude for what it is and say so? Mrs Donnyfly

10:37pm Fri 24 Jan 14

politepanda says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
notscot droned on - sorry, politepanda droned on - "And Mrs D - I note there's a bail hostel "in your neighbourhood" - really? I take it you don't live next door, then?

Why do you "take it" I don't live next door then? You initially suggested that I - among others - should volunteer to have a bail hostel in my neighbourhood, I replied that there already was one in my neighbourhood. Why there should be any "taking" of the proximity of it to my house from that limited information is beyond me.

"Like any project that may impact on the lives of those already there - the locals have the right to object."

Nobody has said they don't have the right.

"Wonderful how some find all the sympathy and empathy in the world to support this kind of project - in someone else's street! And so easy to criticise and vilify those who object."

Whether we agree on the concept of bail hostels or not, the fact is they have to be located somewhere. So I have to ask, who is being the most selfish and disagreeable here? Those who kick up a fuss and demand that one is located nowhere near them, and would most likely consider it a victory if it went somewhere else, or those who see that attitude for what it is and say so?
Nothing changes - the pretense at humanity - you don't quite pull it off. Lambast them by all means because you don't like their objections - but this sickening "there's one in my neighbourhood" tripe is just a tad too far - even for you!!
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: notscot droned on - sorry, politepanda droned on - "And Mrs D - I note there's a bail hostel "in your neighbourhood" - really? I take it you don't live next door, then? Why do you "take it" I don't live next door then? You initially suggested that I - among others - should volunteer to have a bail hostel in my neighbourhood, I replied that there already was one in my neighbourhood. Why there should be any "taking" of the proximity of it to my house from that limited information is beyond me. "Like any project that may impact on the lives of those already there - the locals have the right to object." Nobody has said they don't have the right. "Wonderful how some find all the sympathy and empathy in the world to support this kind of project - in someone else's street! And so easy to criticise and vilify those who object." Whether we agree on the concept of bail hostels or not, the fact is they have to be located somewhere. So I have to ask, who is being the most selfish and disagreeable here? Those who kick up a fuss and demand that one is located nowhere near them, and would most likely consider it a victory if it went somewhere else, or those who see that attitude for what it is and say so?[/p][/quote]Nothing changes - the pretense at humanity - you don't quite pull it off. Lambast them by all means because you don't like their objections - but this sickening "there's one in my neighbourhood" tripe is just a tad too far - even for you!! politepanda

1:23am Sat 25 Jan 14

Mrs Donnyfly says...

".. but this sickening "there's one in my neighbourhood" tripe is just a tad too far..."

You've really lost the plot, haven't you?

Allow me to reiterate. You suggested I volunteer my neighbourhood for this potential bail hostel. I merely pointed out that there was one already in my neighbourhood (neighbourhood being the term you introduced to the debate). For whatever reason you then took it that it wasn't next door. I'm still trying to work out what relevance that has, unless your idea of neighbourhood is the houses immediately adjacent to your own. I daresay many of those complaining about this particular hostel don't live right next door to it.

As it happens I don't live immediately next door to a hostel, it is around 350 yards away. Now to my mind that constitutes neighbourhood, but if you feel it doesn't, and to such an extent that me thinking it does sickens you, then may I respectfully suggest you go and sit in a darkened room somewhere and just spend a few moments reflecting on the important things in life.
".. but this sickening "there's one in my neighbourhood" tripe is just a tad too far..." You've really lost the plot, haven't you? Allow me to reiterate. You suggested I volunteer my neighbourhood for this potential bail hostel. I merely pointed out that there was one already in my neighbourhood (neighbourhood being the term you introduced to the debate). For whatever reason you then took it that it wasn't next door. I'm still trying to work out what relevance that has, unless your idea of neighbourhood is the houses immediately adjacent to your own. I daresay many of those complaining about this particular hostel don't live right next door to it. As it happens I don't live immediately next door to a hostel, it is around 350 yards away. Now to my mind that constitutes neighbourhood, but if you feel it doesn't, and to such an extent that me thinking it does sickens you, then may I respectfully suggest you go and sit in a darkened room somewhere and just spend a few moments reflecting on the important things in life. Mrs Donnyfly

12:37pm Sun 26 Jan 14

politepanda says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
".. but this sickening "there's one in my neighbourhood" tripe is just a tad too far..."

You've really lost the plot, haven't you?

Allow me to reiterate. You suggested I volunteer my neighbourhood for this potential bail hostel. I merely pointed out that there was one already in my neighbourhood (neighbourhood being the term you introduced to the debate). For whatever reason you then took it that it wasn't next door. I'm still trying to work out what relevance that has, unless your idea of neighbourhood is the houses immediately adjacent to your own. I daresay many of those complaining about this particular hostel don't live right next door to it.

As it happens I don't live immediately next door to a hostel, it is around 350 yards away. Now to my mind that constitutes neighbourhood, but if you feel it doesn't, and to such an extent that me thinking it does sickens you, then may I respectfully suggest you go and sit in a darkened room somewhere and just spend a few moments reflecting on the important things in life.
Bless! Condescension according to Mrs D! Do YOU manage to keep a straight face when you look at some of your posts??
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: ".. but this sickening "there's one in my neighbourhood" tripe is just a tad too far..." You've really lost the plot, haven't you? Allow me to reiterate. You suggested I volunteer my neighbourhood for this potential bail hostel. I merely pointed out that there was one already in my neighbourhood (neighbourhood being the term you introduced to the debate). For whatever reason you then took it that it wasn't next door. I'm still trying to work out what relevance that has, unless your idea of neighbourhood is the houses immediately adjacent to your own. I daresay many of those complaining about this particular hostel don't live right next door to it. As it happens I don't live immediately next door to a hostel, it is around 350 yards away. Now to my mind that constitutes neighbourhood, but if you feel it doesn't, and to such an extent that me thinking it does sickens you, then may I respectfully suggest you go and sit in a darkened room somewhere and just spend a few moments reflecting on the important things in life.[/p][/quote]Bless! Condescension according to Mrs D! Do YOU manage to keep a straight face when you look at some of your posts?? politepanda

11:50am Mon 27 Jan 14

Mrs Donnyfly says...

No I don't. It's also difficult to keep a straight face when I'm writing them too.
No I don't. It's also difficult to keep a straight face when I'm writing them too. Mrs Donnyfly

6:31am Tue 28 Jan 14

politepanda says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
No I don't. It's also difficult to keep a straight face when I'm writing them too.
;-)
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: No I don't. It's also difficult to keep a straight face when I'm writing them too.[/p][/quote];-) politepanda

7:38am Wed 29 Jan 14

lokalgirl says...

politepanda wrote:
sphere123, Mrs Donnyfly, frankie007, perhaps you could volunteer YOUR neighbourhoods for this bail hostel? Far better that they're placed with neighbours who'd LOVE to see them - than those who wouldn't.
This is a terrible thing to say, you clearly have no experience of mental illness in your life, people don't choose to develop mental illness and it's this kind of ignorant attitude that prevents people with mental illness/disabilities from being fully accepted and supported in to our communities.... your forget, these individuals are human too, each person is different with their own personality and in spite of difficulties in their lives still are able to make positive contributions to our community. By the way I worked for 30 years supporting people dealing with mental illness, there by the grace of God......
[quote][p][bold]politepanda[/bold] wrote: sphere123, Mrs Donnyfly, frankie007, perhaps you could volunteer YOUR neighbourhoods for this bail hostel? Far better that they're placed with neighbours who'd LOVE to see them - than those who wouldn't.[/p][/quote]This is a terrible thing to say, you clearly have no experience of mental illness in your life, people don't choose to develop mental illness and it's this kind of ignorant attitude that prevents people with mental illness/disabilities from being fully accepted and supported in to our communities.... your forget, these individuals are human too, each person is different with their own personality and in spite of difficulties in their lives still are able to make positive contributions to our community. By the way I worked for 30 years supporting people dealing with mental illness, there by the grace of God...... lokalgirl

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