Police boss vows to keep Bradford on Avon HCZ safe

Wiltshire Times: Police boss vows to keep Bradford on Avon HCZ safe Police boss vows to keep Bradford on Avon HCZ safe

Police Inspector Chris Chammings is reassuring Bradford on Avon residents concerned about pedestrian safety surrounding the Historic Core Zone plans.

The HCZ aims to ‘rebalance the relationship between pedestrians and vehicles and to reduce the dominance and intimidation of traffic’ and phase one focuses on the Market Street/Church Street junction.

Martin Wood, of Grove Leaze, has lived in the town since 1983 and recently used a Freedom of Information request to study the number of accidents before and after a similar scheme was completed in Poynton, Cheshire.

The period covered was July 1, 2005 to July 1, 2010, before the Poynton scheme was introduced, and March 31, 2012 to March 31, 2014, after it was completed.

His request revealed that before the scheme there were nine accidents, one involving a pedestrian, and after the scheme was completed there were six accidents, four of these involving a pedestrian.

He said: “My son and daughter-in-law live in Poynton and earlier in the year they told me about another accident.

“That was what led me to investigate it. Local people here have expressed a lot of doubts about the scheme.

“I know you can’t draw a conclusion from one scheme but it is concerning. I would like to see the pedestrian crossing in Market Street kept.”

Inspector Chammings said: “Public safety is paramount to Wiltshire Police and we will work closely with partner agencies to ensure this is not compromised.”

The final decision on whether to proceed and to allocate resources to phase one of the project will be taken by Councillor John Thomson, portfolio holder for highways at Wiltshire Council.

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5:31pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Blanche Terraine says...

It won't be safe and it cannot succeed. How can it be safe with the large number of aggressive and rude drivers? There won't be a police presence day in, day out to make it work safely. The planners and engineers and politicians will know long before making a public admission that it has failed, but professional pride and habitual inability to apologise will mean the townspeople will have to endure it far longer than experience would indicate they should. The Poynton statistics suggest more pedestrians will be run over. What a shame that public money is being wasted on a certain failure.
It won't be safe and it cannot succeed. How can it be safe with the large number of aggressive and rude drivers? There won't be a police presence day in, day out to make it work safely. The planners and engineers and politicians will know long before making a public admission that it has failed, but professional pride and habitual inability to apologise will mean the townspeople will have to endure it far longer than experience would indicate they should. The Poynton statistics suggest more pedestrians will be run over. What a shame that public money is being wasted on a certain failure. Blanche Terraine
  • Score: 8

6:59am Fri 13 Jun 14

moonrakin wurzel says...

Blanche Terraine wrote:
It won't be safe and it cannot succeed. How can it be safe with the large number of aggressive and rude drivers? There won't be a police presence day in, day out to make it work safely. The planners and engineers and politicians will know long before making a public admission that it has failed, but professional pride and habitual inability to apologise will mean the townspeople will have to endure it far longer than experience would indicate they should. The Poynton statistics suggest more pedestrians will be run over. What a shame that public money is being wasted on a certain failure.
BoA in on a main north south traffic corridor - fiddling about with a few expensive plant pots and some crazy designer paving isn't going to change that.

What a monumental waste of everybody's time and shedloads of public money.

Just block through traffic and have done with it.... = sorted.
[quote][p][bold]Blanche Terraine[/bold] wrote: It won't be safe and it cannot succeed. How can it be safe with the large number of aggressive and rude drivers? There won't be a police presence day in, day out to make it work safely. The planners and engineers and politicians will know long before making a public admission that it has failed, but professional pride and habitual inability to apologise will mean the townspeople will have to endure it far longer than experience would indicate they should. The Poynton statistics suggest more pedestrians will be run over. What a shame that public money is being wasted on a certain failure.[/p][/quote]BoA in on a main north south traffic corridor - fiddling about with a few expensive plant pots and some crazy designer paving isn't going to change that. What a monumental waste of everybody's time and shedloads of public money. Just block through traffic and have done with it.... = sorted. moonrakin wurzel
  • Score: 5

10:16am Fri 13 Jun 14

SquirrelBoy says...

As a boa resident I have huge concerns about this scheme. Unfortunately as the project has gone on some 6 years, I think the people involved can no longer take an objective view and just want to see the project completed because they are now so convinced it is the silver bullet to solve the town's traffic and pedestrian problems. Any critics of the scheme are immediately labelled as ignorant 'because they just don't understand'. Well, I've read and looked at all the plans and I totally understand it but cannot agree it will make anyone safer. Plus It adds further stop/start and hesitation which will only delay the traffic further.

Adding raised sections and courtesy crossings in an effort to make drivers more aware and slow down is a massive gamble. Where you introduce uncertainty you increase the chances of an accident. The pro-hcz group produced a video showing how many cars stop on the pedestrian crossing. Well, if drivers are going to to do that on a zebra crossing they are surely going to do it on all 15 of the new courtesy crossings!?

Boa doesn't have an excessive problem with traffic numbers - all towns have too much traffic - it has a uniquely problematic layout. It has about 4 narrow road sections where the stop/start affect creates the traffic build-up. Of course, I would love to see this problem solved but the HCZ will only exacerbate this and there will permanently be longer traffic queues through boa which are unnecessary and frustrating for everyone.

Unfortunately the schemes' aims seem in contradiction to the solution that is proposed and I really hope the decision-maker sees that. Comparisons with Poynton etc are ludicrous because they are totally different road layouts. At a time when money is tight for government and tax-payers I am frankly embarrassed to have money spent on this scheme when there are so many other things that could be trialled to make the traffic and pedestrian problem better.
As a boa resident I have huge concerns about this scheme. Unfortunately as the project has gone on some 6 years, I think the people involved can no longer take an objective view and just want to see the project completed because they are now so convinced it is the silver bullet to solve the town's traffic and pedestrian problems. Any critics of the scheme are immediately labelled as ignorant 'because they just don't understand'. Well, I've read and looked at all the plans and I totally understand it but cannot agree it will make anyone safer. Plus It adds further stop/start and hesitation which will only delay the traffic further. Adding raised sections and courtesy crossings in an effort to make drivers more aware and slow down is a massive gamble. Where you introduce uncertainty you increase the chances of an accident. The pro-hcz group produced a video showing how many cars stop on the pedestrian crossing. Well, if drivers are going to to do that on a zebra crossing they are surely going to do it on all 15 of the new courtesy crossings!? Boa doesn't have an excessive problem with traffic numbers - all towns have too much traffic - it has a uniquely problematic layout. It has about 4 narrow road sections where the stop/start affect creates the traffic build-up. Of course, I would love to see this problem solved but the HCZ will only exacerbate this and there will permanently be longer traffic queues through boa which are unnecessary and frustrating for everyone. Unfortunately the schemes' aims seem in contradiction to the solution that is proposed and I really hope the decision-maker sees that. Comparisons with Poynton etc are ludicrous because they are totally different road layouts. At a time when money is tight for government and tax-payers I am frankly embarrassed to have money spent on this scheme when there are so many other things that could be trialled to make the traffic and pedestrian problem better. SquirrelBoy
  • Score: 5

12:49pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Mrs Donnyfly says...

"The final decision on whether to proceed and to allocate resources to phase one of the project will be taken by Councillor John Thomson, portfolio holder for highways at Wiltshire Council."

The man that brought us Balfour Beatty....
"The final decision on whether to proceed and to allocate resources to phase one of the project will be taken by Councillor John Thomson, portfolio holder for highways at Wiltshire Council." The man that brought us Balfour Beatty.... Mrs Donnyfly
  • Score: 9

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