I won't be drinking that Tesco p1ss water then if that's what it does to your brain.

I hadn't realised Tesco owned them. Trying to take over every last little corner shop and then close it, no doubt. Why isn't this little arseole under arrest under Terrorism laws, threatening to use bombs? Oh, of course, he's not a Moslem

close it down now!!! clear cut case right?

still selling booze to under age and not asking for ID.
Notice on counter said all sales of alcohol to be checked by supervisor but it was not done when i was in the shop yesterday I think there think they are above the law.

I'm not fan of Tesco and try not to shop at any of its stores if at all possible but I do sometimes use this one.
I find the staff there are alway most helpful and courteous and this sounds most out of character.
Very few other shops in Warminster have happy staff which contrasts with the ASDA in Frome where everyone seems truly eager to please.

Can i have a pint of what ever his drinking.? Does Heather buy her booze here i wonder.

Being in the retail industry and a personnal lisence holder i dont understand why this guy is still employed at this store. The only reason i can come up with is that if he has threatened the police etc then maybe he has done the same with the managment. If this guy was under my employment he would be signing on after the first incident. I'm suprised that Tesco havn't done an investigation.( or maybe they have?) It is people like this that give us independant retailers without the powers of multiple backing such a hard time. It sounds to me that due to one persons actions the store may very well loose its premises lisence, possibly closing the store, i know its owned by tesco's but "another convenient bites the dust"

Frontpage fame!

I've just e-mailed my response to the times for this story anybody else who wants to read it can go to the shoddy two page website i set up specifically for this reason www.psychedelicnomad
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Really people calm yourselves down, i'm only taking the ****, you make it oh so easy, none of you can read, you get tied down in complex sentences and forget what the point of the wrioter was in the first place.

I DIDN'T threaten to throw petrol bombs at pigs and i DON'T still work at that shop....that's clear from the article alone.

Would it really be so bad if one stop closed? you're all whining so much about how bad it is but then i'm sure were you to actually have to walk any further to gorge yourselves on scratchcards and cheap alcohol to hide from your miserable lives.

www.psychedelicnomad
softhe21stcentury.br
avehost.com even.

And Sally love, if you can handle a pint of what i'm drinking chased with a few lines go right ahead. Bomber, nobody cares that you have a personal license, so do i and i sold to kids!

oh dear look at me i got so caught up in the commotion i forgot to finish my sentence..... nevermind what i was going to say is were you to have to walk any further to hide from your loveless marriage in an orgy of cheap booze and scratchcards you'd only whine about that too.

Reefer wrote:
Frontpage fame! I've just e-mailed my response to the times for this story anybody else who wants to read it can go to the shoddy two page website i set up specifically for this reason www.psychedelicnomad softhe21stcentury.br avehopst.com Really people calm yourselves down, i'm only taking the ****, you make it oh so easy, none of you can read, you get tied down in complex sentences and forget what the point of the wrioter was in the first place. I DIDN'T threaten to throw petrol bombs at pigs and i DON'T still work at that shop....that's clear from the article alone. Would it really be so bad if one stop closed? you're all whining so much about how bad it is but then i'm sure were you to actually have to walk any further to gorge yourselves on scratchcards and cheap alcohol to hide from your miserable lives.

Don't suppose you kept a few crates of nicked beer under the bed you want to flog me?

What a pathetic little **** you are Reefer

You live in Westbury, your lifes hardly been a blinding success has it old man.

Also disgusted nick your own you coward tesco steals off of you every day of your life. I'd rather you didn't do it in the Warminster one the staff there are pretty fantastic..

Reefer, your a sad excuse for the younger generation. People like you give the rest of us a bad name. I’ve read your web pages and I think a visit to the hospital in Devizes is needed, or the electric chair. With all your relies you need to keep looking over your shoulder you demented person.

Looking over my shoulder? Waiting for the day buddy...

Not as if i'm that far from you is it.

It's violent little **** like you that give the entire human race a bad name resorting to your fists whenever somebody offends you.

Reefer, you seem like quite an intelligent young man, which beggars the question; why get involved in all of this?

Surely you could use what you have to do something with your life, not get sacked and possibly get a criminal record. Surely you have aspirations beyond supplying underage youths with alcohol..?

I agree trowbo, sometimes its an alpha male thing within small local groups that set the short term aspirations for these youngsters.

The time will come when they all drift apart and they have to search out their own paths in life.

It seems this period of time extends as the years go on to the detriment of society.

It will come, the day when he has to look at himself, on his own and ask questions and take actions that only he can ask and do.

Until then he is dictated to by his standing in the eyes of his peers.
I would suggest he bends over backwards to impress people younger than himself most of the time as well.

Until he understands that he is not impressing anyone outside his current circle, he is lost.

Yes he is intellegent but is trapped.

I don't believe i'm trying to impress anyone, if anything this story has been a bit embarrassing.

I like to think myself as a hippie you see and having the local media portray you as a terrorist simply because you decided to tell the police that there time was near and people had been pushed to their limits is hardly a source of pride.

Will i back down in the face of this negative publicity? no, rest assured this has nothing to do with any notion that i'm impressing anybody whether inside or out of my group of friends, it's a much more ethical basis than that.

I will not let these bastards continue raping the earth of all it's beauty and worth, you may well be content to sit in your comfortable middle class life and pretend like everythings fine and for this i bear no grudge, i've seen first hand the trouble that comes with speaking out on many more instances than this, it just isn't worth it to some.

For me however it is, i have nothing to lose, i'm young and i'm idealistic just like you were, i've got time still to grow up but the truth is i really would rather not.

This world genuinely terrifies me, for somebody who wakes up to look at the sky every morning with a smile on his face it really shouldn't be all that terrifying, so like anybody else in that position i find somebody to blame and point the finger.

Do i blame the gangs of knife-wielding kids plauging our streets, or the parents who were too scared to hug their own kids? not in the slightest, i lay the blame at the feet of those solely responsible for turning this planet into an orgy of violence and fear, a planet of people scared of their next door neighbours, i never had my say in any of this......and you know what........it's **** me off.

Neither have most of you had your say, but you're content to criticize those willing to stand up against the bullies and the thugs.

I was fined £80 for making a mistake, £80 out of a 19 year olds paycheck is quite a large amount, if it had ended there or even began at that point in time i may have been content to let it lie but several weeks of being stalked and harrassed by the members of my community supposed to be protecting me, even at times when i was not at work left me with a bitter taste in my mouth.

Believe me there's much to this story yopu haven't been told, because i was never given a fair chance to air my side, as soon as i do i'm labelled as mentally unhinged or immature.

Do you really think i threatened to throw petrol bombs at the police? would i not have been arrested that very day had that been the case?

Perhaps some of you lack common sense but i thought that would be an obvious outcome had this article been true.

6 months on from this and still no word from the police, i do hope i've put the fear of god into them and that's why they're staying clear, but i'm all too aware it probably has more to do with them realizing that i never said these things.

You're all so clueless as to who you should blame here, some blame one stop, many more blame me, but not one of you has had the balls to blame yourself for the state of the world today which is nuturing a million violent minds just like my own, i've kept mine largely sedated and i assure you a hippie is no threat to anyone but rest assured bombs will explode, planes will fall from the sky and more kids will turn up dead on your streets until you fix this bullshit once and for all.

In his first tirade Mr Reefer attacked the literacy of posters. He has a point of course as everyone regardless of education should feel free to post and not be unduly attacked if their English is poor.
But if he makes such a comment he should not be surprised if comments are passed on his own level of education and English. I note he uses the word 'alright' - no such word exists and the use of this 'word' is a marker for someone of poor academic ability. It should be 'all right'. All Right?

I never pretended to be intelligent, i'm a college drop out buddy, i've also mis-used more than my fair share of narcotics and it's left my brain in quite a state it must be said (nice colours though.)

If that's the best argument you can put against me then it might be worth not bothering.

Also since when is my name Mr Reefer? it's in the **** article numbnuts.

If we're going to make this an argument about illiteracy i might just have to go and smoke a joint instead, my point was that people had mis-read a number of key things within the article, the fact you'd waste your time commenting on the use of a word shows just what a sad and uninteresting person you must really be mate.

Two people think i'm intelligent one dickhead becomes genuinely offended by my mis-spelling of a word.

Grow up you doss ****.

An idealistic hippy working for a multi national company! You really are living the dream.

*Worked for, we all need a job buddy unfortunately the system ensured the only job open to somebody like me was behind a till.

Use of the word Mr is simply a courtesy or perhaps I should call you reefer esquire or Master Reefer.
I was not forming an argument simply pointing out a simple error.
I'm not offended by such errors just sad that people go through our education system and come out the other end so bitter and lacking in basic skills.
I could have added use of 'there' when it should be 'their', use of letter 'z' when 's' should be used and lack of apostrophe and incorrect use of caps.
If you do apply for a job in future make sure you get this sort of thing correct, it is important.

Now having said that you do raise many valid points about the direction of travel of our society and the sometimes poor judgement of police officers.
I had a run in with the police only last week when they accused me of trying to take the front off a police car but that doesn't warrant me making such a threat.
If you have a genuine complaint against the police you should contact the Independent Police Complaints Commission which has huge powers to punish the police. This very morning Wiltshire Police have been severely admonished for their handling of a high-profile case in February 2004.
If you have genuine cause there are the correct channels although at your tender age you will not be aware of them all.

Ultimately One Stop should be big enough to take the blame as this organisation runs a large number of stores and should have a bullet-proof system in place to prevent this type of offence from taking place.

A bullet proof system? do you know how easdy it is to get hold of alcohol if you aren't yet 18? believe me i never once struggeled and it isn't the fault of the shopkeepers the majority of the time, have you ever worked in a shop that sold alcohol?

The IPCC is a waste of time and effort in cases such as this, i broke the law and the law punished me, they wouldn't be interested to hear how immoral or ineffective their law is. You only need to look at the drug war to know these **** in power don't care how much their policies are hurting the general public to little benefit of overall society.

If i ever apply for a job it certainly wouldn't be for a picky sonofabitch like you who expects even the most casual of discussions to be grammaticaly perfect.

Also for the last **** time i never made a threat to anyone think about it genius would the police honestly tolerate a threat of this severity you moron?

Ultimately you should be big enough to look past spelling mistakes or grammatical errors and see the sorry state of your world for what it is and prevent that kind of bullshit ruining everybodies fun in a life which really amounts to **** all but one big party.

Anymore spelling mistakes you'd like to point out? Maybe you'd be so kind as to tutor me with your obviously fantastic knowledge of the English language, you see some of us were more content to bunk off and go for a sneaky smoke during the more tedious of lessons.

By the way you wouldn't happen to be the taxi driving Steve they mention here would you, if so there's one or two more things i'd like to say to you ;)

Reefer wrote:
A bullet proof system? do you know how easdy it is to get hold of alcohol if you aren't yet 18? believe me i never once struggeled and it isn't the fault of the shopkeepers the majority of the time, have you ever worked in a shop that sold alcohol?

The IPCC is a waste of time and effort in cases such as this, i broke the law and the law punished me, they wouldn't be interested to hear how immoral or ineffective their law is. You only need to look at the drug war to know these **** in power don't care how much their policies are hurting the general public to little benefit of overall society.

If i ever apply for a job it certainly wouldn't be for a picky sonofabitch like you who expects even the most casual of discussions to be grammaticaly perfect.

Also for the last **** time i never made a threat to anyone think about it genius would the police honestly tolerate a threat of this severity you moron?

Ultimately you should be big enough to look past spelling mistakes or grammatical errors and see the sorry state of your world for what it is and prevent that kind of bullshit ruining everybodies fun in a life which really amounts to **** all but one big party.

Anymore spelling mistakes you'd like to point out? Maybe you'd be so kind as to tutor me with your obviously fantastic knowledge of the English language, you see some of us were more content to bunk off and go for a sneaky smoke during the more tedious of lessons.

Anymore spelling mistakes you'd like to point out?

Now you come to mention it. i should be I regardless of where it is in the sentence. It's a real shame you have wasted your education.

Never mind i've got all the kids who never fit in at school and buried their noses in English textbooks instead to help me along now :)

You see school was also about learning social skills, judging by your rampant desire to correct people's spelling i'm guessing you missed out on this side?

No Reefer, I’m neither a taxi driver or town council member, just a long-suffering member of the Warminster public who has spent half a century in the town and who has a son about your age.
Like many people I’m afraid I am fussy and about spelling, punctuation and grammar as these are highly indicative of ability and attitude. You won’t be able to find half-decent employment until you improve.

I don’t necessarily blame you for your failings but you must improve if you wish to progress, as you can’t stay an angry young man forever.
Like many people who grew up in the town post-war I benefited from being taught by Mr Christopher Weekes, known as Lenny, who was the scariest teacher you could imagine at age 11.
He taught at Avenue Secondary from 1948 and later at Kingdown until 1980. You would have hated him but I can guarantee that if you had been in his classes you wouldn’t be the person you are and you would have been equipped to gain employment.
Sadly when he retired and other teachers such as Mr Bastin, Mr Wyer, Mr Atyeo and Mr Gibbs left the school I noticed that behaviour of many school-age children in the town seemed to spiral downwards.

Why not try to set an example, be polite, don’t abuse people who have made comments you disagree with and even be nice to police officers (even if you do it in an ironic way)?

You’d find life more enjoyable.

You see school was also about learning social skills

You obviously bunked out of those lessons as well.

Having failed to hold down a job working as a shop assistant I fear you are destined to a life of menial, and low paid jobs.

P Hancox wrote:

You see school was also about learning social skills

You obviously bunked out of those lessons as well.

Nope i just tended to stay away from the kids like you...there were far more interesting characters out there for me.

As for a life of low paying, menial jobs so what, we're the ones putting food on your table might want to check your burger next time you're at maccy d's those kids don't take to kindly to some white-collar snob who made his money by ripping people off in his twisted desire to win the rat race...

Reefer, you too will join the rat race. You may not see it as possible right now but mark my words, you will.

I wish I'd listened to my elders advice when I was younger, things would have been so much simpler.

But we don't do we.
Some things in life must be learned the hard way.

Sounds like you know it's an uphill struggle, just choose the path of least resistance, thats my advice.
Dont do drugs, theres some more. ;)

Reefer do you not like or respect the police? Making threats is bad times friend.

Sadly when he retired and other teachers such as Mr Bastin, Mr Wyer, Mr Atyeo and Mr Gibbs left the school I noticed that behaviour of many school-age children in the town seemed to spiral downwards

Not forgetting Mr Walters, Mr Astridge, Mr Briggs and Mr Bundy either - but yes "Lenny" was the scariest.

Having read Reefer's comments I found myself agreeing with quite a few things he said, but sadly he has not written them at all well. The foul language definitely does not help as you immediately tend to think he's an imbecile, a lout, absolute waste of space and so full of venom and hatred of people who are trying to stop kids from going off the rails and protect our community.

An extremely angry man who I fear will end up with a very sad life and who no-one will want to help.

Well i expect you'd be rather angry if some thug stole £80 out of your wallet and told you it wasn't a crime to do so.

To have your name printed all over the local news as a terrorist and be confronted by a bunch of snobs looking down their noses disprovingly because you decided to defend yourself in the face of all this.

Perhaps i haven't gone about convincing you in the best sort of way but i see no reason to play nice when all you've done is this...

Your kids won't go off the rails because they happened to get hammered on cheap cider in the park last week, every kid does this, it's a part of growing up, you did it too and there kids will probably carry on the tradition.

The reason your society is falling to pieces is because you stopped caring about it, you were more content with trying to exploit it.

It's pretty clear most of you are as fed up with the state of things as i am, so why the hell isn't somebody doing something before somebody really does go to the extreme.

Do you lose your conscience when you grow up and stop being such an idealistic imbecile aswell?

How does selling cheap alcohol to under age youths do anything to help mend the poor society we live in?

I'm obviously missing something here. Agreed, society is in an awful state and before long something major will happen for better or worse becuase of the state it is in, but that isn't an excuse to break the law yourself.

If you want to protest, then do so. Or even better join one of the many organisations that are set up for the very reason.

Giving young kids alcohol is irresponsible and will only make matters worse. I'd hasten a guess that some of the young kids have probably caused lots of anti social behaviour in the area as a result of you helping them. It also weakens any arguement that you want to put forward as people won't/can't take you seriously.

If you want to start a peaceful revalution to mend this broken country, lots of people will be on your side, but you have to do it in the right way; mainly not to alienate all of those you are trying to help with your behaviour.

Paul, you have chosen not to take advantage of the education offered to you, you chose to abuse drugs, and you chose to sell alcohol to someone under 18.

Stop blaming society and everyone else for your failings.

You are still young enough to turn things round. Use your energy to better yourself, but I guess it's easier to sit on your backside and blame others.

For a hippy, you're quite an angry person. I'm 23. Yes, I drank underage, but not in the park, yes I dabbled with drugs, but didn't like who I became when on them. I didn't even go to collage, but have an good job, I'm married and own my own home. It's not society's fault about your hard life and all the problems in the world, it's YOURS! People like you who have no regard for the law, or for any one else shouldn't be allowed the right of free speach. You can't threaten someone with petrol bombs and expect nothing to happen. You got fined £80 because you broke the law. The same law everyone else lives by. If you can't understand that, it's your problem. A lesson to be learned here? Don't break the law and have a bit more common regard for everyone. Every one and every thing sharing the same space in peace love and harmony is the hippy dream isn't it? Well, you're hippy values seem to be way off.

Paul we all need the police you know. There's no way society could police itself. There are too many extremes.

Reefer wrote:
You live in Westbury, your lifes hardly been a blinding success has it old man.

You couldn't be more wrong.

i've got time still to grow up but the truth is i really would rather not

Clearly

we all need a job buddy unfortunately the system ensured the only job open to somebody like me was behind a till.

And your attitude/chip on your shoulder didn't prevent you from getting other jobs did it!

If i ever apply for a job

I have the strong suspicion that you will spend your days claiming benefits and living your 'life' in some drug induced haze. More wasted tax payers money.