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10:48am Monday 1st September 2008
A PAIR of drunken yobs who racially assaulted a kebab shop boss after he asked them to clean up their mess have been jailed.
Nathan Doyle and Grant Thomas, both from Bradford on Avon, left their victim with fractures to his cheekbone, eye socket and nose during the group attack.
And passing sentence a judge condemned their actions as a very bad example of drunken yobbish behaviour'.
Doyle, 18, and Thomas, 21, were among a group of youths who attacked Cem Ciftlik, who was partner in Station Kebab Shop on Frome Road, Bradford on Avon.
Colin Meeke, prosecuting, told Swindon Crown Court on Friday that Ciftlik had been having problems with a group of youths.
They would hang around outside on Friday and Saturday nights throwing food around and breaking bottles.
On October 12 various members of the group were outside the shop causing problems throwing food about and generally being difficult.
Mr Ciftlik went outside to speak to Thomas telling him if he didn't want to eat the food to put it in the bin to which he replied Oh yes Muslim brother'.
The group went away and at about 2am returned when two of the group entered the shop and one said Oi Muslim brother, give me some free food'.
As they were behaving themselves he gave them each a piece of chicken but they went outside and one immediately kicked it across the ground.
"He said that he had had enough and took a broom outside and told them to clean it up or they would be barred from the shop," Mr Meeke said.
Members of the group then shouted racist abuse at him swearing and calling him a Muslim and a Turk.
He tried to get Thomas to leave his shop but he snarled don't push me' before he and his pals set upon Mr Ciftlik punching and kicking him.
The two youths were arrested later that night and while Thomas said he could recall next to nothing Doyle told police he had been jumped by some Pakis'.
Doyle, of Priory Close, and Thomas, of Baileys Barn, both pleaded guilty to racially aggravated grievous bodily harm.
Paul Grumbar, for Doyle, said his client was remorseful and not a racist having Malaysian relatives and a girlfriend of Caribbean extraction.
He said the racist words were abuse uttered in the heat of the moment rather than a deliberate racist attack.
Doyle had experienced difficulties in his education but had found work with his grandfather working as a builder.
He urged the judge not to impose a custodial term saying he was not really equipped to deal with it'.
Alex Daymond, for Thomas, said his client realised he faced a jail term and felt he deserved it for what he had done.
Judge Douglas Field said: "You two, with others, attacked this man and you kicked and punched him and as a result he suffered serious injuries.
"This is a very bad example of drunken yobbish behaviour which the courts are determined to deal with seriously. It is racially aggravated and that make it more serious."
He jailed Doyle for two years and Thomas for two and a half saying he was older and had a record for violence.
Alf, Warminster says...
12:28pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Disgusted of, Westbury says...
2:16pm Mon 1 Sep 08
walter, wilshur says...
2:37pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Wiltshire Resident, Wiltshire says...
5:39pm Mon 1 Sep 08
meathead69, bradford on avon says...
9:02pm Tue 2 Sep 08
Disgusted of, Westbury says...
10:41pm Tue 2 Sep 08
meathead69 wrote:"Doyle, of Priory Close, and Thomas, of Baileys Barn, both pleaded guilty to racially aggravated grievous bodily harm."
nathan doyle dont deserve to go down the kebabs owners started it people dont the the truth about the story
Listen here..!!, wilts says...
2:56pm Thu 4 Sep 08
Disgusted of wrote:Hes probably hoping to get a kebab named after him...Mince meat kebab,,,sounds like thats all hes got upstairs....
meathead69 wrote: nathan doyle dont deserve to go down the kebabs owners started it people dont the the truth about the story"Doyle, of Priory Close, and Thomas, of Baileys Barn, both pleaded guilty to racially aggravated grievous bodily harm." What part of that do you not understand meaty?
meathead69, bradford on avon says...
7:21pm Sat 6 Sep 08
Listen here..!! wrote:shut up di£k u belive wot the papers say u civvi mongs
Disgusted of wrote:Hes probably hoping to get a kebab named after him...Mince meat kebab,,,sounds like thats all hes got upstairs....meathead69 wrote: nathan doyle dont deserve to go down the kebabs owners started it people dont the the truth about the story"Doyle, of Priory Close, and Thomas, of Baileys Barn, both pleaded guilty to racially aggravated grievous bodily harm." What part of that do you not understand meaty?
Listen here..!!, wilts says...
5:08pm Sun 7 Sep 08
munchbunch, diltonmarsh says...
7:51pm Mon 8 Sep 08
kate, trowbridge says...
9:19pm Tue 9 Sep 08
-c-, b-o-a says...
9:24pm Tue 9 Sep 08
munchbunch, diltonmarsh says...
4:42am Wed 10 Sep 08
kate, trowbridge says...
1:38pm Wed 10 Sep 08
-c-, b-o-a says...
4:25pm Wed 10 Sep 08
munchbunch wrote:Read the paper?! LMAO!
read the paper!! They admitted to the court they were guilty!! So, i think your protecting self-confessed racist thugs. (that means they said they did it!!). Thats court scriptures not papers!! Send them down, no place in society for kids who think they're tough in gangs.
munchbunch, diltonmarsh says...
7:18pm Wed 10 Sep 08
Public Spirit, Wiltshire says...
11:17pm Thu 11 Sep 08
meathead69, bradford on avon says...
7:35pm Tue 30 Sep 08
munchbunch wrote:i ave got a job u mug i got a betta job than u u civvi gay god i hate u civvys think u know it all
I expect Meathead (probably a good name,mince i expect) is probably missing his gang leader. Must be lonely outside the shop on your own. Grow up, get a job and be responsible.
meathead69, bradford on avon says...
7:39pm Tue 30 Sep 08
munchbunch wrote:i dont even hang about there im not that sad dick head oi i hate u munch bunch u sound like a right **** u think u know it all i hate people like you. u go and get a real job u spend all your life on this website got a problem email me at seanhammerton@hotmai
I expect Meathead (probably a good name,mince i expect) is probably missing his gang leader. Must be lonely outside the shop on your own. Grow up, get a job and be responsible.
meathead69, bradford on avon says...
7:41pm Tue 30 Sep 08
Listen here..!! wrote:only nathan was my mate has been for 11 year i dont care about grant nathan dont deserve it
Hey Meathead ,,,go pick your dummy up...dont spit it out so far...Mind you if you get your mates to help you lok for it...!!!! OH NO...you cant..theyre banged up.....and rightly so...both of them are scum.....Long live kebabs.....
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Necker, Trowbridge says...
11:26am Mon 1 Sep 08
However, as you can see the 'racial' insults from someone who obviously is not a racist in truth may just have been an accurate description of the guy they were attacking but enhanced with foul words.
I mean... if a black man was attacking a white man he would not call him black if he wanted to offend would he?
Just like a white man attacking a black man would probably not use the word white when verbally abusing him.
Sometimes it's just what it is?
I do not expect a scrap between violent differing creeds will be un-racist from either side.
Lets get it into perspective anything and everything is said to offend the other party in these situations, thats the way it is.
Good their banged up now.. no place for violence like that anywhere on anyone especially when the take away owner was doing what any respectable person should have the right to do.