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Residents to get a say in traffic plan

4:31pm Sunday 7th September 2008

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By Victoria Ashford »

THOUSANDS of leaflets will be sent to residents in Bradford on Avon and nearby villages next week as part of a major consultation exercise that could transform the traffic system.

The explanatory leaflet, which includes a questionnaire and invitation for ideas, will be sent to 6,250 households in Holt, Limpley Stoke, Monkton Farleigh, South Wraxall, Westwood, Winsley and Bradford.

The idea behind the consultation process is to address the impact of motor vehicles on pedestrians and other road users, on air quality, and on the structure of buildings.

The responses will inform a two-day intensive workshop, to be held in mid-November.

Organiser Gerald Milward-Oliver said: "Over the years, you'll probably find that everyone living in the area has come up with an answer to what they believe is wrong with traffic in the town.

"Some people insist on a bypass, but at what environmental cost and how would it be financed? Some want traffic to be speeded up through town so they can get to where they're going faster. Some want traffic removed from the town centre altogether.

"Climate change and the cost of fuel is making people everywhere think about alternatives to the car - whether bicycle, bus, train or on foot.

"But here in the area of Bradford on Avon, we have another reason for pausing and thinking about our relationship with the motor car, particularly in the town centre."

Organisers hope that they will receive a deluge of constructive suggestions over the next six weeks, which will form the foundation for the workshop that takes place in November.

The consultation and workshops will be part-funded by the town council and the BoA Community Area Partnership, as well as being supported by numerous bodies such as Wiltshire County Council and The Bradford on Avon Preservation Trust.

The two-day workshop will be co-chaired by Ben Bolgar, design director of The Prince's Foundation for the Built Environment, and Andrew Cameron, director of urban design at WSP Group and co-author of Manual for Streets', a Government technical guidance document on the sustainable use of public space.

The chairman of Climate Friendly Bradford, Richard Craft, said: "What we are hoping is that the scheme will make the centre of BoA much more friendly for people. We still want to accommodate the traffic but in a way so that the town is not dominated by it.

"I'm very optimistic about the scheme. It will bring lots of groups together that haven't always seen eye to eye on the solutions."


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moonrakin_wurzel, Trowbridge says...
8:00pm Sun 7 Sep 08

It's dead easy ->

Build an elevated 6 lane flyover from Batheaston to Westbury.

->there<-

done....

Don't need no meetings

Chris Nowak, Swindon says...
9:12pm Sun 7 Sep 08

Very appropriate that they should consult.

Necker, Trowbridge says...
12:40pm Mon 8 Sep 08

Who are these people?

This is what it sounds like...
It's been arranged by some bored troublemaker who has asked for endorsment for his actions (and funding) from the poeple that should be doing these things in the first place, the council.

This is just organisations finding any way whatsoever to extract money from the taxpayer to fund themselves and their crusades.

Yes, bradford needs some form of traffic management, yes ,the council stuffed up with parking restrictions so tight it has had adverse effects. No, we do not need gospel and dictates from the lentil eating sandal wearers. No, this is just shuffling elected power into the hands of the un-elected once again, at our expense.


Scooter, Trowbolia says...
12:52pm Mon 8 Sep 08

Traffic as we all know in Bradford is an absolute nightmare at peak times. The town hasn't evolved with the level of traffic in mind, and thats part of its charm.

The traffic needs to be realistically dealt with, it won't go away, so lets get it sorted. Find a route to get it through/around the town and on its way.

This does sound like the hippies have infultrated the town Council!

Walter McCabe, Freshford says...
1:26pm Mon 8 Sep 08

Divert it all through Poulton, that,ll reduce traffic!!!

moonrakin_wurzel, Trowbridge says...
1:21am Tue 9 Sep 08

I think Necker's right.

Who are these people?

Not elected - that's for sure.

Using public funds too.

The article's so badly constructed it's not clear who's organising what - but it's clear the public purse is being pillaged again - by an array the usual suspects.

Walter has a point too.....

I note that it's extremely rare for anybody from these outfits to defend their patronising boobery here....

Walter McCabe, Freshford says...
9:05am Tue 9 Sep 08

I think I commented on Mr Milward-Oliver a while back, again google is invaluable in tracking these folks modus operandus, lets take a look at Andrew Cameron at Urban Design. These little leafleters are usually an excuse for more research funding, jollys and knees up, at OUR expense.

realistic old man, West wilts says...
1:16pm Tue 9 Sep 08

"Some people insist on a bypass, but at what environmental cost and how would it be financed?"
What environmental cost - try living in the town and putting up with the traffic every day - that's the real environmental cost.
As for so called alternatives, how many people in BoA would dare to use a bike (if they owned one) in such a high traffic density
Want some cash for a bypass ? Put a toll on the town bridge - £1 a time - that will either raise the cash pdq or get rid of the traffic problem !!!

big boy, boa says...
8:34pm Tue 9 Sep 08

Who on earth do these people think they are? What mandate do they have? NONE! And what has Bradford got to do with Holt, Limpley Stoke, Monkton farleigh etc ... they don't live in Bradford and should keep their snouts out of it. If their parish counil's want a say they should put their hands in their pockets. Who is paying for this waste of paper? Let's register our protest at these unelected dinosaur do-gooders and recylcle the survey!

big boy, boa says...
8:42pm Tue 9 Sep 08

ps have the do gooders scuppered the kingston mill development again? I was expecting bob the builder by now! How long is it now since the factory shut. It's a total disgrace that certain people should be ashamed of. People of bradford time to fight back,

dogooder, Bradford on Avon says...
12:57pm Fri 12 Sep 08

The main problem with the traffic in Bradford is the yellow box system.
Drivers just do not know how to use them.
Solution is to remove them and make Bradford a one way system.
Up Masons and down New Road.
Why is it not possible for our elected local council to sort this out.

Chris Nowak, Swindon says...
5:02pm Fri 12 Sep 08

Well I still think that consultation is appropriate. We can't have it both ways. It seems to me that councils are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Chris Nowak

moonrakin_wurzel, Trowbridge says...
12:45am Mon 15 Sep 08

Chris Nowak wrote:
Well I still think that consultation is appropriate. We can't have it both ways. It seems to me that councils are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Chris Nowak
Consultation?

Oh, you mean like the one the county council's organised about the unitary authority eh?


See:
http://www.wiltshire
times.co.uk/search/d
isplay.var.2436404.0
.super_council_roads
hows_planned.php

The point here in case you've missed it... is that some folk have set themselves up as he organisers of the "consultation" with the connivance of public servants, using public funds.

Now , here we are out on the net - what's wrong with organising a web site - or even using an existing method (Yahoo Groups etc.) to lay out the problem and elicit comments and suggestions from the great unwashed ?

Many of us are too busy during the working day to get to meetings and the whole "public consultation" game is presently a travesty of due diligence - see the decision to build a polyclinic on a town centre green field amenity site in Trowbridge.

The bottom line here seems to be that council officials (didn't see anybody vote the funds....)and some of their chums are controlling the discussion and using public funds to monopolise the argument.




drbennyboombass, bradford says...
5:45am Mon 15 Sep 08

the government has underground tunnels they dont use anymore running all around the west country cant they connect those tunnels thro bradders and out to trow from old limpers and make them roads? also they have all kinds of underground stuff nobody noes about so cant they just give a little of it up 4 the porpers? the town councellers could ask the bosses

moonrakin_wurzel, Trowbridge says...
10:18pm Mon 15 Sep 08

drbennyboombass wrote:
the government has underground tunnels they dont use anymore running all around the west country cant they connect those tunnels thro bradders and out to trow from old limpers and make them roads? also they have all kinds of underground stuff nobody noes about so cant they just give a little of it up 4 the porpers? the town councellers could ask the bosses
Nah...

the proposed Batheaston to Westbury bypass superlink elevated six lane highway will be a landmark devleopment - think of the jobs and the reduction in pollution.

walter, wilshur says...
1:35pm Tue 16 Sep 08

drbennyboombass wrote:
the government has underground tunnels they dont use anymore running all around the west country cant they connect those tunnels thro bradders and out to trow from old limpers and make them roads? also they have all kinds of underground stuff nobody noes about so cant they just give a little of it up 4 the porpers? the town councellers could ask the bosses
I bin livin' in Wilshur since the day I were born, but I be buggered if I can make head nor bloody tail of what this is s'posed to mean. I

Public Spirit, Wiltshire says...
8:18am Sat 20 Sep 08

Perhaps the best for all would be to flatten BOA and make it a super highway. It's such a hippy haven anyway, no one would miss it.

Maybe we could rehouse the do gooder BOA population in the tunnels mentioned by drbennyboombass and they could be the first underground hippy colony. If they could be made self sufficient, no one would ever have to put up with them again. I am sure lentils can be produced in caves.

They could also knit themselves zebra crossings from pastic bags if they had any need of course without any traffic except penny farthing bikes.

Hope springs eternal.

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