‘Yellow peril’ as lines are drawn in Trowbridge

Wiltshire Times: Jacqueline Szafran is unhappy with double yellow lines in Stancomb Avenue Jacqueline Szafran is unhappy with double yellow lines in Stancomb Avenue

Angry householders are far from mellow about new yellow lines appearing in Trowbridge.


By the end of this week, Wiltshire Council hopes to have finished introducing new parking restrictions, which will see more double yellow and single yellow lines in Trowbridge.


Jacqueline Szafran, 58, of Hilperton Drive, who parks in  nearby Stancomb Avenue, said: said: “It’s a ludicrous decision, this doesn’t eradicate any parking problems.
“It just shifts it elsewhere, I just don’t know what they are thinking.”


Some residents are also concerned that with fewer cars parked on the roadside motorists might be prone to speed.


Cynthia Berryman, 69, of Bradford Road, has seen the front of her driveway painted with double yellow lines, along with other stretches of the road which already had some yellow lines.


She said: “This has now opened up the road giving drivers a clear pathway to speed.”
But lines at Hazel Grove, near Grove Primary School, have pleased some families. June Sims, of Hazel Grove, said: “At peak times of the day the road is choc-a-bloc because of the thoughtlessness of parents when dropping off their children off.
“We had a fire officer down last week, who said there was no chance they could get a vehicle down the road if there was an emergency.”


Wiltshire Council said extra yellow lines in Trowbridge,  Melksham, Westbury and Warminster were to allow better access for emergency vehicles.

Where the yellow lines will go in Trowbridge.

*No waiting at any time introduced both sides: Aldeburgh Place, Ashmead, Avenue Road, Barn Glebe (main arm), Barn Glebe (access to Numbers 31-38), Bellfield Crescent, Bond Street, Bridge Street, Brown Street, Cavendish Drive, Charlotte Street, Delamere Road, Drynham Road, Drynham Road (access to Number 35a-35c), Dursley Road, George Street, Gladstone Road, Gloucester Road, Green Lane, Green Lane (access to Numbers 1-7), Hazel Grove, Holbrook Lane, Hungerford Avenue, Lambrok Close, Lambrok Road, Lamplighters Walk, Lower Court, Lowmead, Manton Close, Nightingale Road, Rutland Crescent, Sheridan Gardens, Stancomb Avenue, Stancomb Avenue (access to Numbers 3-15 Hilperton Road), St John’s Crescent, St Thomas Road, Studley Rise, Sycamore Grove, Waterworks Road, Westbourne Gardens and Wingfield Road.

*No waiting introduced parts of: Innox Road, Brewery Walk, Lark Down, Wiltshire Drive, Avondale Road, Kennet Way, Timbrell Street, College Road, Henderson Close, Swallow Drive, Welsey Road, Clarendon.

* No waiting extended both sides: Carlton Row, College Road, Gloucester Road, Lambrok Road and Stancomb Avenue.

* No waiting extended north east sides: Dursley Road, Drynham Road, Eastbourne Road, Wesley Road, Clothier Leaze.

* No waiting extended east side: Manor Road, north and south west sides: Westbourne Gardens.

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5:55pm Fri 29 Mar 13

blindingly obvious says...

Some of these roads are perfectly good residential areas. Is this the council trying to force people to use paid car parks. Hope they draw a line under this!
Some of these roads are perfectly good residential areas. Is this the council trying to force people to use paid car parks. Hope they draw a line under this! blindingly obvious

8:08pm Fri 29 Mar 13

beetawix says...

is it now illegal to unload shopping or pack car for holiday in these neighbourhoods?
What effect will these measures have on car crime and the current crackdown on same.
is it now illegal to unload shopping or pack car for holiday in these neighbourhoods? What effect will these measures have on car crime and the current crackdown on same. beetawix

10:19pm Fri 29 Mar 13

notappreciated says...

all councils are interested in is revenue for car parks - the govt get a lot of revenue from motorists but still make it difficult and expensive to park - they think motorists have money trees in their gardens - I don't understand why yellow lines are painted outside the drive - please enlighten me!!!
all councils are interested in is revenue for car parks - the govt get a lot of revenue from motorists but still make it difficult and expensive to park - they think motorists have money trees in their gardens - I don't understand why yellow lines are painted outside the drive - please enlighten me!!! notappreciated

11:17pm Fri 29 Mar 13

southendmike says...

What happens when Removal men need to load / unload in any of these roads?

What happens when I need to stop to unhitch my Caravan to put it on the drive of my house?

Will residents in these roads get permits?

Not very well thought out methinks!
What happens when Removal men need to load / unload in any of these roads? What happens when I need to stop to unhitch my Caravan to put it on the drive of my house? Will residents in these roads get permits? Not very well thought out methinks! southendmike

1:24am Sat 30 Mar 13

beetawix says...

Wiltshire Council said extra yellow lines in Trowbridge, Were to allow better access for emergency vehicles.

what nonsense. i will support council in many things but this is utter hogwash.
dust carts get through these streets ok,
have the thick council not noticed, or does extracting money excite them too much?
while most council services are cut, i wonder how many traffic wardens and fixed penalty staff are being recruited.
Wiltshire Council said extra yellow lines in Trowbridge, Were to allow better access for emergency vehicles. what nonsense. i will support council in many things but this is utter hogwash. dust carts get through these streets ok, have the thick council not noticed, or does extracting money excite them too much? while most council services are cut, i wonder how many traffic wardens and fixed penalty staff are being recruited. beetawix

3:17am Sat 30 Mar 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

"...dust carts get through these streets ok..."

Isn't the average fire engine about 2ft wider than the average bin lorry?
"...dust carts get through these streets ok..." Isn't the average fire engine about 2ft wider than the average bin lorry? Mrs Donnyfly

9:32am Sat 30 Mar 13

the optimist says...

Just goes to show that some people don't read the highway code. There are double yellow lines shown on the road. No-loading lines are painted on the kerb at right angles to the yellow lines and have a wall sign telling you when you can and cannot load/unload.

The article clearly reports of a fire officer saying that a fire engine couldn't get down the road. I wonder what would have happened if an emergency vehicle had tried to get down Stancomb Avenue, failed and someone died?

I also fail to see why a person from Hilperton Drive wants to park in Stancomb all day when buses pass through Hilperton regularly?

Another non story.
Just goes to show that some people don't read the highway code. There are double yellow lines shown on the road. No-loading lines are painted on the kerb at right angles to the yellow lines and have a wall sign telling you when you can and cannot load/unload. The article clearly reports of a fire officer saying that a fire engine couldn't get down the road. I wonder what would have happened if an emergency vehicle had tried to get down Stancomb Avenue, failed and someone died? I also fail to see why a person from Hilperton Drive wants to park in Stancomb all day when buses pass through Hilperton regularly? Another non story. the optimist

10:51am Sat 30 Mar 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

notappreciated wrote:
all councils are interested in is revenue for car parks - the govt get a lot of revenue from motorists but still make it difficult and expensive to park - they think motorists have money trees in their gardens - I don't understand why yellow lines are painted outside the drive - please enlighten me!!!
You make it sound like those who make these decisions aren't motorists themselves.
[quote][p][bold]notappreciated[/bold] wrote: all councils are interested in is revenue for car parks - the govt get a lot of revenue from motorists but still make it difficult and expensive to park - they think motorists have money trees in their gardens - I don't understand why yellow lines are painted outside the drive - please enlighten me!!![/p][/quote]You make it sound like those who make these decisions aren't motorists themselves. Mrs Donnyfly

10:58am Sat 30 Mar 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

blindingly obvious wrote:
Some of these roads are perfectly good residential areas. Is this the council trying to force people to use paid car parks. Hope they draw a line under this!
It is blindingly obvious that the majority of streets listed are residential, and quite narrow ones at that, particularly when cars are parked on both sides, so it has nothing to do with forcing people to use pay and display car parks a couple of miles, or more, from their homes.
[quote][p][bold]blindingly obvious[/bold] wrote: Some of these roads are perfectly good residential areas. Is this the council trying to force people to use paid car parks. Hope they draw a line under this![/p][/quote]It is blindingly obvious that the majority of streets listed are residential, and quite narrow ones at that, particularly when cars are parked on both sides, so it has nothing to do with forcing people to use pay and display car parks a couple of miles, or more, from their homes. Mrs Donnyfly

11:07am Sat 30 Mar 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

Where the lady is standing in the photograph is a narrow access road off of Stancomb Avenue leading to the first one or two odd number houses and to the rear of houses on Hilperton Road. Why is she parking there anyway?
Where the lady is standing in the photograph is a narrow access road off of Stancomb Avenue leading to the first one or two odd number houses and to the rear of houses on Hilperton Road. Why is she parking there anyway? Mrs Donnyfly

12:23pm Sat 30 Mar 13

AMVanquish007 says...

It is quite frankly astounding what is going on with this council . Clearly there is no consideration for residents,business and potential business for the future and its impact. In today's Wiltshire Times we see these officers and councillors who have decided in their infinite wisdom to plaster Trowbridge with yet more extended single and double yellow lines restrictions.Quite a few of these roads are within a mile radius of the new cinema at St Stephens Place. There is absolutely no chance of anybody coming a distance in a car to go to the cinema to park in the afternoons anywhere in this town. it appears the councils idea is to channel car drivers into the car parks to pay to park and go to the cinema but this is flawed and beyond belief. Cinemagoers expect car parking to be free and in close proximity to the cinema . Currently,even without the cinema open, the Trowbridge car parks will be full of workers cars and shoppers on a holiday date denying cinema patrons the opportunity to park in the afternoons anywhere in this town.Side roads would have eased the congestion but no!!! lets restrict this potential nuisance and get at the residents at the same time so as to justify the salaries of the traffic wardens in Trowbridge which to be honest were never needed in the first place.
If ever there was a more anal policy of wrecking the viability of a new multiplex cinema during the day - this is it. A modern 1300 seater multiplex is going to get 50% of its business from afternoon holiday dates.Families will be turning up in cars from within a 20 mile radius to try to get to this cinema and what will they find between the hours of 9am to 6pm? Car Parks already full with workers and shoppers - side streets with yellow lines blocking any attempt to park,god forbid-and ultimately supermarket car parks will change to 2 hr maximum limits with ANPR Cameras.
As of October when the St Stephens Place is due to open, this town will go down in history as the town of the parking ticket and road rage.
.Despite any idea that the Peter Blacks site might be utilised as a future levelled car park (who for? Wiltshire council staff or for the cinema?) frankly, if I was Odeon i would be having serious concerns about my profitability at this late stage.
Yes,the council wants to regenerate and try to attract business and retail to come here, but once youve signed on the dotted line, it's a case of we will penalize you up to the hilt with high business rates and an idiotic policy on car parking. No wonder there are 36 empty retail units in Trowbridge. Nobody wants to come here.
The extra 111 spaces on St Stephens Place just isn't going to cut it either
A 1300 seat cinema
6 x100 place restaurants
An 80 bedroomed hotel that gets a 90% occupancy.
Please!!!!!!! On popular holiday dates with popular films this could mean 300 cars coming and leaving every 3 hours for the cinema alone and not any consideration for families wanting to stay for a meal after or before the cinema performance. The result- congestion on a scale on the county way roundabout they never thought was possible and block backs on all arteries into the centre of Trowbridge.
This council clearly have not one clue about the number of cars coming from outside of Trowbridge that will be attracted to this development.
So here is a stark message to council officers and councillors - get a reality check- or else see this new cinema close its doors sooner than the old Europa cinema(1974-82) did because it will have difficulties surviving on the evening business alone and it most certainly will not survive as a town cinema only. This is a multiplex serving a huge catchment - I suggest you go back to the drawing board and undertake a major rethink on parking for Trowbridge beneficial to everybody and not just emergency vehicles ( which can be bought with differing chassis lengths and widths to accommodate restricted areas)
Hopefully after May 2 there will be a new council made up of enlightened independent and business orientated councillors who will have the intelligence to know how to create jobs and listen to residents for once.
And hopefully Innox Riverside, still with its Cineworld cinema under appeal, with its Morrisons, restaurants and 550 free car parking spaces with rail link, will progress forward at great speed with no further obstructions from this council. It won't be a moment too soon considering we might be entering another double/treble dip recession.
It is quite frankly astounding what is going on with this council . Clearly there is no consideration for residents,business and potential business for the future and its impact. In today's Wiltshire Times we see these officers and councillors who have decided in their infinite wisdom to plaster Trowbridge with yet more extended single and double yellow lines restrictions.Quite a few of these roads are within a mile radius of the new cinema at St Stephens Place. There is absolutely no chance of anybody coming a distance in a car to go to the cinema to park in the afternoons anywhere in this town. it appears the councils idea is to channel car drivers into the car parks to pay to park and go to the cinema but this is flawed and beyond belief. Cinemagoers expect car parking to be free and in close proximity to the cinema . Currently,even without the cinema open, the Trowbridge car parks will be full of workers cars and shoppers on a holiday date denying cinema patrons the opportunity to park in the afternoons anywhere in this town.Side roads would have eased the congestion but no!!! lets restrict this potential nuisance and get at the residents at the same time so as to justify the salaries of the traffic wardens in Trowbridge which to be honest were never needed in the first place. If ever there was a more anal policy of wrecking the viability of a new multiplex cinema during the day - this is it. A modern 1300 seater multiplex is going to get 50% of its business from afternoon holiday dates.Families will be turning up in cars from within a 20 mile radius to try to get to this cinema and what will they find between the hours of 9am to 6pm? Car Parks already full with workers and shoppers - side streets with yellow lines blocking any attempt to park,god forbid-and ultimately supermarket car parks will change to 2 hr maximum limits with ANPR Cameras. As of October when the St Stephens Place is due to open, this town will go down in history as the town of the parking ticket and road rage. .Despite any idea that the Peter Blacks site might be utilised as a future levelled car park (who for? Wiltshire council staff or for the cinema?) frankly, if I was Odeon i would be having serious concerns about my profitability at this late stage. Yes,the council wants to regenerate and try to attract business and retail to come here, but once youve signed on the dotted line, it's a case of we will penalize you up to the hilt with high business rates and an idiotic policy on car parking. No wonder there are 36 empty retail units in Trowbridge. Nobody wants to come here. The extra 111 spaces on St Stephens Place just isn't going to cut it either A 1300 seat cinema 6 x100 place restaurants An 80 bedroomed hotel that gets a 90% occupancy. Please!!!!!!! On popular holiday dates with popular films this could mean 300 cars coming and leaving every 3 hours for the cinema alone and not any consideration for families wanting to stay for a meal after or before the cinema performance. The result- congestion on a scale on the county way roundabout they never thought was possible and block backs on all arteries into the centre of Trowbridge. This council clearly have not one clue about the number of cars coming from outside of Trowbridge that will be attracted to this development. So here is a stark message to council officers and councillors - get a reality check- or else see this new cinema close its doors sooner than the old Europa cinema(1974-82) did because it will have difficulties surviving on the evening business alone and it most certainly will not survive as a town cinema only. This is a multiplex serving a huge catchment - I suggest you go back to the drawing board and undertake a major rethink on parking for Trowbridge beneficial to everybody and not just emergency vehicles ( which can be bought with differing chassis lengths and widths to accommodate restricted areas) Hopefully after May 2 there will be a new council made up of enlightened independent and business orientated councillors who will have the intelligence to know how to create jobs and listen to residents for once. And hopefully Innox Riverside, still with its Cineworld cinema under appeal, with its Morrisons, restaurants and 550 free car parking spaces with rail link, will progress forward at great speed with no further obstructions from this council. It won't be a moment too soon considering we might be entering another double/treble dip recession. AMVanquish007

12:24pm Sat 30 Mar 13

AMVanquish007 says...

It is quite frankly astounding what is going on with this council . Clearly there is no consideration for residents,business and potential business for the future and its impact. In today's Wiltshire Times we see these officers and councillors who have decided in their infinite wisdom to plaster Trowbridge with yet more extended single and double yellow lines restrictions.Quite a few of these roads are within a mile radius of the new cinema at St Stephens Place. There is absolutely no chance of anybody coming a distance in a car to go to the cinema to park in the afternoons anywhere in this town. it appears the councils idea is to channel car drivers into the car parks to pay to park and go to the cinema but this is flawed and beyond belief. Cinemagoers expect car parking to be free and in close proximity to the cinema . Currently,even without the cinema open, the Trowbridge car parks will be full of workers cars and shoppers on a holiday date denying cinema patrons the opportunity to park in the afternoons anywhere in this town.Side roads would have eased the congestion but no!!! lets restrict this potential nuisance and get at the residents at the same time so as to justify the salaries of the traffic wardens in Trowbridge which to be honest were never needed in the first place.
If ever there was a more anal policy of wrecking the viability of a new multiplex cinema during the day - this is it. A modern 1300 seater multiplex is going to get 50% of its business from afternoon holiday dates.Families will be turning up in cars from within a 20 mile radius to try to get to this cinema and what will they find between the hours of 9am to 6pm? Car Parks already full with workers and shoppers - side streets with yellow lines blocking any attempt to park,god forbid-and ultimately supermarket car parks will change to 2 hr maximum limits with ANPR Cameras.
As of October when the St Stephens Place is due to open, this town will go down in history as the town of the parking ticket and road rage.
.Despite any idea that the Peter Blacks site might be utilised as a future levelled car park (who for? Wiltshire council staff or for the cinema?) frankly, if I was Odeon i would be having serious concerns about my profitability at this late stage.
Yes,the council wants to regenerate and try to attract business and retail to come here, but once youve signed on the dotted line, it's a case of we will penalize you up to the hilt with high business rates and an idiotic policy on car parking. No wonder there are 36 empty retail units in Trowbridge. Nobody wants to come here.
The extra 111 spaces on St Stephens Place just isn't going to cut it either
A 1300 seat cinema
6 x100 place restaurants
An 80 bedroomed hotel that gets a 90% occupancy.
Please!!!!!!! On popular holiday dates with popular films this could mean 300 cars coming and leaving every 3 hours for the cinema alone and not any consideration for families wanting to stay for a meal after or before the cinema performance. The result- congestion on a scale on the county way roundabout they never thought was possible and block backs on all arteries into the centre of Trowbridge.
This council clearly have not one clue about the number of cars coming from outside of Trowbridge that will be attracted to this development.
So here is a stark message to council officers and councillors - get a reality check- or else see this new cinema close its doors sooner than the old Europa cinema(1974-82) did because it will have difficulties surviving on the evening business alone and it most certainly will not survive as a town cinema only. This is a multiplex serving a huge catchment - I suggest you go back to the drawing board and undertake a major rethink on parking for Trowbridge beneficial to everybody and not just emergency vehicles ( which can be bought with differing chassis lengths and widths to accommodate restricted areas)
Hopefully after May 2 there will be a new council made up of enlightened independent and business orientated councillors who will have the intelligence to know how to create jobs and listen to residents for once.
And hopefully Innox Riverside, still with its Cineworld cinema under appeal, with its Morrisons, restaurants and 550 free car parking spaces with rail link, will progress forward at great speed with no further obstructions from this council. It won't be a moment too soon considering we might be entering another double/treble dip recession.
It is quite frankly astounding what is going on with this council . Clearly there is no consideration for residents,business and potential business for the future and its impact. In today's Wiltshire Times we see these officers and councillors who have decided in their infinite wisdom to plaster Trowbridge with yet more extended single and double yellow lines restrictions.Quite a few of these roads are within a mile radius of the new cinema at St Stephens Place. There is absolutely no chance of anybody coming a distance in a car to go to the cinema to park in the afternoons anywhere in this town. it appears the councils idea is to channel car drivers into the car parks to pay to park and go to the cinema but this is flawed and beyond belief. Cinemagoers expect car parking to be free and in close proximity to the cinema . Currently,even without the cinema open, the Trowbridge car parks will be full of workers cars and shoppers on a holiday date denying cinema patrons the opportunity to park in the afternoons anywhere in this town.Side roads would have eased the congestion but no!!! lets restrict this potential nuisance and get at the residents at the same time so as to justify the salaries of the traffic wardens in Trowbridge which to be honest were never needed in the first place. If ever there was a more anal policy of wrecking the viability of a new multiplex cinema during the day - this is it. A modern 1300 seater multiplex is going to get 50% of its business from afternoon holiday dates.Families will be turning up in cars from within a 20 mile radius to try to get to this cinema and what will they find between the hours of 9am to 6pm? Car Parks already full with workers and shoppers - side streets with yellow lines blocking any attempt to park,god forbid-and ultimately supermarket car parks will change to 2 hr maximum limits with ANPR Cameras. As of October when the St Stephens Place is due to open, this town will go down in history as the town of the parking ticket and road rage. .Despite any idea that the Peter Blacks site might be utilised as a future levelled car park (who for? Wiltshire council staff or for the cinema?) frankly, if I was Odeon i would be having serious concerns about my profitability at this late stage. Yes,the council wants to regenerate and try to attract business and retail to come here, but once youve signed on the dotted line, it's a case of we will penalize you up to the hilt with high business rates and an idiotic policy on car parking. No wonder there are 36 empty retail units in Trowbridge. Nobody wants to come here. The extra 111 spaces on St Stephens Place just isn't going to cut it either A 1300 seat cinema 6 x100 place restaurants An 80 bedroomed hotel that gets a 90% occupancy. Please!!!!!!! On popular holiday dates with popular films this could mean 300 cars coming and leaving every 3 hours for the cinema alone and not any consideration for families wanting to stay for a meal after or before the cinema performance. The result- congestion on a scale on the county way roundabout they never thought was possible and block backs on all arteries into the centre of Trowbridge. This council clearly have not one clue about the number of cars coming from outside of Trowbridge that will be attracted to this development. So here is a stark message to council officers and councillors - get a reality check- or else see this new cinema close its doors sooner than the old Europa cinema(1974-82) did because it will have difficulties surviving on the evening business alone and it most certainly will not survive as a town cinema only. This is a multiplex serving a huge catchment - I suggest you go back to the drawing board and undertake a major rethink on parking for Trowbridge beneficial to everybody and not just emergency vehicles ( which can be bought with differing chassis lengths and widths to accommodate restricted areas) Hopefully after May 2 there will be a new council made up of enlightened independent and business orientated councillors who will have the intelligence to know how to create jobs and listen to residents for once. And hopefully Innox Riverside, still with its Cineworld cinema under appeal, with its Morrisons, restaurants and 550 free car parking spaces with rail link, will progress forward at great speed with no further obstructions from this council. It won't be a moment too soon considering we might be entering another double/treble dip recession. AMVanquish007

12:30pm Sat 30 Mar 13

AMVanquish007 says...

Apologies for double post above - PC was stuck on send
Apologies for double post above - PC was stuck on send AMVanquish007

12:50pm Sat 30 Mar 13

blindingly obvious says...

@Mrs Donnyfly.........the death of many towns high streets has been through the removal of free two hour parking and restrictions in residential areas...the point You are missing is the footfall of people visiting Trowbridge not your petty comments.
@Mrs Donnyfly.........the death of many towns high streets has been through the removal of free two hour parking and restrictions in residential areas...the point You are missing is the footfall of people visiting Trowbridge not your petty comments. blindingly obvious

1:43pm Sat 30 Mar 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

blindingly obvious wrote:
@Mrs Donnyfly.........the death of many towns high streets has been through the removal of free two hour parking and restrictions in residential areas...the point You are missing is the footfall of people visiting Trowbridge not your petty comments.
The point YOU are trying to introduce has nothing to do with what the article is about. How may I ask does painting yellow lines in say, St John's Crescent or Bond St or Studley Rise affect what goes on in the town centre? How can the yellow lines in these roads, and the majority of others listed, be an attempt by the council to "force" people to use pay and display car parks as you spuriously suggest?
[quote][p][bold]blindingly obvious[/bold] wrote: @Mrs Donnyfly.........the death of many towns high streets has been through the removal of free two hour parking and restrictions in residential areas...the point You are missing is the footfall of people visiting Trowbridge not your petty comments.[/p][/quote]The point YOU are trying to introduce has nothing to do with what the article is about. How may I ask does painting yellow lines in say, St John's Crescent or Bond St or Studley Rise affect what goes on in the town centre? How can the yellow lines in these roads, and the majority of others listed, be an attempt by the council to "force" people to use pay and display car parks as you spuriously suggest? Mrs Donnyfly

2:01pm Sat 30 Mar 13

blindingly obvious says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
blindingly obvious wrote:
@Mrs Donnyfly.........the death of many towns high streets has been through the removal of free two hour parking and restrictions in residential areas...the point You are missing is the footfall of people visiting Trowbridge not your petty comments.
The point YOU are trying to introduce has nothing to do with what the article is about. How may I ask does painting yellow lines in say, St John's Crescent or Bond St or Studley Rise affect what goes on in the town centre? How can the yellow lines in these roads, and the majority of others listed, be an attempt by the council to "force" people to use pay and display car parks as you spuriously suggest?
I park in these places and walk to do my town business....so the point that these yellow lines do have something to do with my point is relevant. When you visit a new place on holiday do you always go for the most expensive car park(lucky you) I will park further out and enjoy the walk in.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blindingly obvious[/bold] wrote: @Mrs Donnyfly.........the death of many towns high streets has been through the removal of free two hour parking and restrictions in residential areas...the point You are missing is the footfall of people visiting Trowbridge not your petty comments.[/p][/quote]The point YOU are trying to introduce has nothing to do with what the article is about. How may I ask does painting yellow lines in say, St John's Crescent or Bond St or Studley Rise affect what goes on in the town centre? How can the yellow lines in these roads, and the majority of others listed, be an attempt by the council to "force" people to use pay and display car parks as you spuriously suggest?[/p][/quote]I park in these places and walk to do my town business....so the point that these yellow lines do have something to do with my point is relevant. When you visit a new place on holiday do you always go for the most expensive car park(lucky you) I will park further out and enjoy the walk in. blindingly obvious

2:38pm Sat 30 Mar 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

I don't believe for one minute that anybody parks in somewhere like St John's Crescent and walks into town from there; same goes for nearly every street name on that list. I think you're entering the realms of fantasy on that one.

Your suggestion that I might purposefully opt for the most expensive car park when visiting a new place is bordering on the insane. I, and I imagine most people, will look for the nearest car park to where I want to go that has a space, and if I have to pay a quid or two then so be it. I am not so selfish as to block up residential side streets a couple of miles away from where I want to be.
I don't believe for one minute that anybody parks in somewhere like St John's Crescent and walks into town from there; same goes for nearly every street name on that list. I think you're entering the realms of fantasy on that one. Your suggestion that I might purposefully opt for the most expensive car park when visiting a new place is bordering on the insane. I, and I imagine most people, will look for the nearest car park to where I want to go that has a space, and if I have to pay a quid or two then so be it. I am not so selfish as to block up residential side streets a couple of miles away from where I want to be. Mrs Donnyfly

2:51pm Sat 30 Mar 13

blindingly obvious says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
I don't believe for one minute that anybody parks in somewhere like St John's Crescent and walks into town from there; same goes for nearly every street name on that list. I think you're entering the realms of fantasy on that one.

Your suggestion that I might purposefully opt for the most expensive car park when visiting a new place is bordering on the insane. I, and I imagine most people, will look for the nearest car park to where I want to go that has a space, and if I have to pay a quid or two then so be it. I am not so selfish as to block up residential side streets a couple of miles away from where I want to be.
I am happy that you have a quid or two to spend on parking each day.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: I don't believe for one minute that anybody parks in somewhere like St John's Crescent and walks into town from there; same goes for nearly every street name on that list. I think you're entering the realms of fantasy on that one. Your suggestion that I might purposefully opt for the most expensive car park when visiting a new place is bordering on the insane. I, and I imagine most people, will look for the nearest car park to where I want to go that has a space, and if I have to pay a quid or two then so be it. I am not so selfish as to block up residential side streets a couple of miles away from where I want to be.[/p][/quote]I am happy that you have a quid or two to spend on parking each day. blindingly obvious

5:04pm Sat 30 Mar 13

AMVanquish007 says...

Unfortunately Mrs Donnyfly you are going to find from October that many cinemagoers coming from a distance WILL be looking at residential streets within a one mile radius of the cinema to park as the current development at St Stephens Place has woefully inadequate parking spaces to cover it. It might work on evenings and on Sundays when car parks are free but not the rest of the time when the majority of car parks are rammed especially,as I mentioned,on kids holiday dates.
Unfortunately Mrs Donnyfly you are going to find from October that many cinemagoers coming from a distance WILL be looking at residential streets within a one mile radius of the cinema to park as the current development at St Stephens Place has woefully inadequate parking spaces to cover it. It might work on evenings and on Sundays when car parks are free but not the rest of the time when the majority of car parks are rammed especially,as I mentioned,on kids holiday dates. AMVanquish007

6:05pm Sat 30 Mar 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

blindingly obvious wrote:
Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
I don't believe for one minute that anybody parks in somewhere like St John's Crescent and walks into town from there; same goes for nearly every street name on that list. I think you're entering the realms of fantasy on that one.

Your suggestion that I might purposefully opt for the most expensive car park when visiting a new place is bordering on the insane. I, and I imagine most people, will look for the nearest car park to where I want to go that has a space, and if I have to pay a quid or two then so be it. I am not so selfish as to block up residential side streets a couple of miles away from where I want to be.
I am happy that you have a quid or two to spend on parking each day.
Who said anything about doing it each day? You asked about my parking choice when I visited a new place on holiday - that is not something I do each day.
[quote][p][bold]blindingly obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: I don't believe for one minute that anybody parks in somewhere like St John's Crescent and walks into town from there; same goes for nearly every street name on that list. I think you're entering the realms of fantasy on that one. Your suggestion that I might purposefully opt for the most expensive car park when visiting a new place is bordering on the insane. I, and I imagine most people, will look for the nearest car park to where I want to go that has a space, and if I have to pay a quid or two then so be it. I am not so selfish as to block up residential side streets a couple of miles away from where I want to be.[/p][/quote]I am happy that you have a quid or two to spend on parking each day.[/p][/quote]Who said anything about doing it each day? You asked about my parking choice when I visited a new place on holiday - that is not something I do each day. Mrs Donnyfly

6:13pm Sat 30 Mar 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

AMVanquish007 wrote:
Unfortunately Mrs Donnyfly you are going to find from October that many cinemagoers coming from a distance WILL be looking at residential streets within a one mile radius of the cinema to park as the current development at St Stephens Place has woefully inadequate parking spaces to cover it. It might work on evenings and on Sundays when car parks are free but not the rest of the time when the majority of car parks are rammed especially,as I mentioned,on kids holiday dates.
That may well be AMV, but sticking to the topic of the article most of the streets mentioned are over a one mile radius of the cinema, some well over. So just maybe the line painting on those streets has nothing to do with the St Stephen's Place development, or the council trying to fleece drivers by forcing them to use pay and display car parks. Just maybe it might be for the reasons they say it's for. Not everything is connected with that development, and not everyone is obsessed with arguing the toss over cinemas
[quote][p][bold]AMVanquish007[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately Mrs Donnyfly you are going to find from October that many cinemagoers coming from a distance WILL be looking at residential streets within a one mile radius of the cinema to park as the current development at St Stephens Place has woefully inadequate parking spaces to cover it. It might work on evenings and on Sundays when car parks are free but not the rest of the time when the majority of car parks are rammed especially,as I mentioned,on kids holiday dates.[/p][/quote]That may well be AMV, but sticking to the topic of the article most of the streets mentioned are over a one mile radius of the cinema, some well over. So just maybe the line painting on those streets has nothing to do with the St Stephen's Place development, or the council trying to fleece drivers by forcing them to use pay and display car parks. Just maybe it might be for the reasons they say it's for. Not everything is connected with that development, and not everyone is obsessed with arguing the toss over cinemas Mrs Donnyfly

6:34pm Sat 30 Mar 13

blindingly obvious says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
blindingly obvious wrote:
Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
I don't believe for one minute that anybody parks in somewhere like St John's Crescent and walks into town from there; same goes for nearly every street name on that list. I think you're entering the realms of fantasy on that one.

Your suggestion that I might purposefully opt for the most expensive car park when visiting a new place is bordering on the insane. I, and I imagine most people, will look for the nearest car park to where I want to go that has a space, and if I have to pay a quid or two then so be it. I am not so selfish as to block up residential side streets a couple of miles away from where I want to be.
I am happy that you have a quid or two to spend on parking each day.
Who said anything about doing it each day? You asked about my parking choice when I visited a new place on holiday - that is not something I do each day.
do you not go to the same place on holiday each day, Donnyfly you are full of angst,think a chill pill would do you good. My lifestyle allows me to walk to places,if you are too lazy too walk from residential areas and pay you have far too much money and love clogging up central business areas. if you need me to break down each individual paragraph about parking choice and parameters to each response then i suppose i can fit it in.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blindingly obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: I don't believe for one minute that anybody parks in somewhere like St John's Crescent and walks into town from there; same goes for nearly every street name on that list. I think you're entering the realms of fantasy on that one. Your suggestion that I might purposefully opt for the most expensive car park when visiting a new place is bordering on the insane. I, and I imagine most people, will look for the nearest car park to where I want to go that has a space, and if I have to pay a quid or two then so be it. I am not so selfish as to block up residential side streets a couple of miles away from where I want to be.[/p][/quote]I am happy that you have a quid or two to spend on parking each day.[/p][/quote]Who said anything about doing it each day? You asked about my parking choice when I visited a new place on holiday - that is not something I do each day.[/p][/quote]do you not go to the same place on holiday each day, Donnyfly you are full of angst,think a chill pill would do you good. My lifestyle allows me to walk to places,if you are too lazy too walk from residential areas and pay you have far too much money and love clogging up central business areas. if you need me to break down each individual paragraph about parking choice and parameters to each response then i suppose i can fit it in. blindingly obvious

8:12pm Sat 30 Mar 13

beetawix says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
Where the lady is standing in the photograph is a narrow access road off of Stancomb Avenue leading to the first one or two odd number houses and to the rear of houses on Hilperton Road. Why is she parking there anyway?
it only applies to vehicles I think
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: Where the lady is standing in the photograph is a narrow access road off of Stancomb Avenue leading to the first one or two odd number houses and to the rear of houses on Hilperton Road. Why is she parking there anyway?[/p][/quote]it only applies to vehicles I think beetawix

8:53pm Sat 30 Mar 13

southendmike says...

Ahem - sorry to interrupt your three-way verbal spat, but, referring to my post last night (4th from the top) - does anyone know whether my Removal Men will get a fine when they stop on the new double yellow lines, and, similarly, if I stop to unhitch my Caravan, will I get a fine also?

Thank you in advance!
Ahem - sorry to interrupt your three-way verbal spat, but, referring to my post last night (4th from the top) - does anyone know whether my Removal Men will get a fine when they stop on the new double yellow lines, and, similarly, if I stop to unhitch my Caravan, will I get a fine also? Thank you in advance! southendmike

4:06am Sun 31 Mar 13

AMVanquish007 says...

I think Mrs Donnyfly you will find that a large percentage of the roads stated in the article are well within a mile from St Stephens Place. I suggest you get out a map and ruler
Southendmike-just contact the council and give a day and date of the removal and they will exempt the vehicle. i think you have to give the registration of the vehicle and company name 24 hours beforehand to get the exemption.
I think Mrs Donnyfly you will find that a large percentage of the roads stated in the article are well within a mile from St Stephens Place. I suggest you get out a map and ruler Southendmike-just contact the council and give a day and date of the removal and they will exempt the vehicle. i think you have to give the registration of the vehicle and company name 24 hours beforehand to get the exemption. AMVanquish007

6:34am Sun 31 Mar 13

southendmike says...

AMV - thanks for that. I'll call the Council on Tuesday and ask about the Caravan scenario also!
AMV - thanks for that. I'll call the Council on Tuesday and ask about the Caravan scenario also! southendmike

9:54am Sun 31 Mar 13

beetawix says...

sounds ridiculously bureaucratic, would it not be more sensible for a traffic warden to exempt what are obviously delivery vehicles, on the spot.
sounds ridiculously bureaucratic, would it not be more sensible for a traffic warden to exempt what are obviously delivery vehicles, on the spot. beetawix

11:13am Sun 31 Mar 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

Parking in designated and built for purpose car parks is apparently clogging up central business areas, whatever they are.
Parking in designated and built for purpose car parks is apparently clogging up central business areas, whatever they are. Mrs Donnyfly

11:20pm Sun 31 Mar 13

moonrakin wurzel says...

I think people are being really unfair toward people who work for the council. It takes considerable talent and no small amount of training and commitment to achieve something this terminally stupid.

They've got to have something to do in the offices haven't they ? I mean, if you can't have meetings and instruct lawyers to spend thousands.£££ on half baked Traffic Regulation Orders, and can't be bothered to actually acknowledge communications from people civilly querying the sanity of the proposal? - consultation exercise WHAT CONSULTATION???

An exercise in high handed, half baked, not thought through waste of money.

Give them all hi-viz overalls, picks, shovels and get them out repairing the thousands of pot holes, clanking drain covers, blocked culverts, collapsing verges and perhaps they could QC their contractors into the bargain as some of the repairs have been worse than the problems.

An absolute shower.

I note not one idiot official at the council seems prepared to take the flack on this...
I think people are being really unfair toward people who work for the council. It takes considerable talent and no small amount of training and commitment to achieve something this terminally stupid. They've got to have something to do in the offices haven't they ? I mean, if you can't have meetings and instruct lawyers to spend thousands.£££ on half baked Traffic Regulation Orders, and can't be bothered to actually acknowledge communications from people civilly querying the sanity of the proposal? - consultation exercise WHAT CONSULTATION??? An exercise in high handed, half baked, not thought through waste of money. Give them all hi-viz overalls, picks, shovels and get them out repairing the thousands of pot holes, clanking drain covers, blocked culverts, collapsing verges and perhaps they could QC their contractors into the bargain as some of the repairs have been worse than the problems. An absolute shower. I note not one idiot official at the council seems prepared to take the flack on this... moonrakin wurzel

12:46am Mon 1 Apr 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

I look forward to seeing the names of M.Wurzel and B.Obvious on the next ballot paper for Council elections.
I look forward to seeing the names of M.Wurzel and B.Obvious on the next ballot paper for Council elections. Mrs Donnyfly

1:08am Mon 1 Apr 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

AMVanquish007 wrote:
I think Mrs Donnyfly you will find that a large percentage of the roads stated in the article are well within a mile from St Stephens Place. I suggest you get out a map and ruler
Southendmike-just contact the council and give a day and date of the removal and they will exempt the vehicle. i think you have to give the registration of the vehicle and company name 24 hours beforehand to get the exemption.
Yes AMV, some of the street names on that list are within one mile of St Stephen's Place. They're also within one mile of Valerie Anne Fashions and W.H.Smith and Sons. In other words, so what? The majority of them aren't, and it is irrelevant. The article has nothing to do with St Stephen's Place, or whether there are enough parking spaces - I couldn't give a flying wotsit whether there are or not. Neither has it anything to do with Blindingly Ridiculous's suggestion that it is some underhand ploy by the council to force people to use pay and display car parks. I have better things to do than measure distances on a map with a ruler - I happen to know exactly where all these streets are and how far they are from any given point anywhere in town.

Is it beyond anyone else to think that just maybe the council have painted these lines simply in the belief, however misguided, that they are doing something good in keeping residential streets clear of unnecessary parking. How many times has anyone driven down a narrow residential street and pondered how an emergency vehicle could possibly get down there - I know I have.
[quote][p][bold]AMVanquish007[/bold] wrote: I think Mrs Donnyfly you will find that a large percentage of the roads stated in the article are well within a mile from St Stephens Place. I suggest you get out a map and ruler Southendmike-just contact the council and give a day and date of the removal and they will exempt the vehicle. i think you have to give the registration of the vehicle and company name 24 hours beforehand to get the exemption.[/p][/quote]Yes AMV, some of the street names on that list are within one mile of St Stephen's Place. They're also within one mile of Valerie Anne Fashions and W.H.Smith and Sons. In other words, so what? The majority of them aren't, and it is irrelevant. The article has nothing to do with St Stephen's Place, or whether there are enough parking spaces - I couldn't give a flying wotsit whether there are or not. Neither has it anything to do with Blindingly Ridiculous's suggestion that it is some underhand ploy by the council to force people to use pay and display car parks. I have better things to do than measure distances on a map with a ruler - I happen to know exactly where all these streets are and how far they are from any given point anywhere in town. Is it beyond anyone else to think that just maybe the council have painted these lines simply in the belief, however misguided, that they are doing something good in keeping residential streets clear of unnecessary parking. How many times has anyone driven down a narrow residential street and pondered how an emergency vehicle could possibly get down there - I know I have. Mrs Donnyfly

1:24am Mon 1 Apr 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

blindingly obvious wrote:
Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
blindingly obvious wrote:
Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
I don't believe for one minute that anybody parks in somewhere like St John's Crescent and walks into town from there; same goes for nearly every street name on that list. I think you're entering the realms of fantasy on that one.

Your suggestion that I might purposefully opt for the most expensive car park when visiting a new place is bordering on the insane. I, and I imagine most people, will look for the nearest car park to where I want to go that has a space, and if I have to pay a quid or two then so be it. I am not so selfish as to block up residential side streets a couple of miles away from where I want to be.
I am happy that you have a quid or two to spend on parking each day.
Who said anything about doing it each day? You asked about my parking choice when I visited a new place on holiday - that is not something I do each day.
do you not go to the same place on holiday each day, Donnyfly you are full of angst,think a chill pill would do you good. My lifestyle allows me to walk to places,if you are too lazy too walk from residential areas and pay you have far too much money and love clogging up central business areas. if you need me to break down each individual paragraph about parking choice and parameters to each response then i suppose i can fit it in.
There's just too much ridiculousness there, in so few sentences, to shake a stick at.
[quote][p][bold]blindingly obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blindingly obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: I don't believe for one minute that anybody parks in somewhere like St John's Crescent and walks into town from there; same goes for nearly every street name on that list. I think you're entering the realms of fantasy on that one. Your suggestion that I might purposefully opt for the most expensive car park when visiting a new place is bordering on the insane. I, and I imagine most people, will look for the nearest car park to where I want to go that has a space, and if I have to pay a quid or two then so be it. I am not so selfish as to block up residential side streets a couple of miles away from where I want to be.[/p][/quote]I am happy that you have a quid or two to spend on parking each day.[/p][/quote]Who said anything about doing it each day? You asked about my parking choice when I visited a new place on holiday - that is not something I do each day.[/p][/quote]do you not go to the same place on holiday each day, Donnyfly you are full of angst,think a chill pill would do you good. My lifestyle allows me to walk to places,if you are too lazy too walk from residential areas and pay you have far too much money and love clogging up central business areas. if you need me to break down each individual paragraph about parking choice and parameters to each response then i suppose i can fit it in.[/p][/quote]There's just too much ridiculousness there, in so few sentences, to shake a stick at. Mrs Donnyfly

8:41am Mon 1 Apr 13

notscot says...

Odd - someone seems to be whining about people using car parks - to park their cars! Could've sworn they were meant for that purpose.
Odd - someone seems to be whining about people using car parks - to park their cars! Could've sworn they were meant for that purpose. notscot

11:42am Mon 1 Apr 13

moonrakin wurzel says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
I look forward to seeing the names of M.Wurzel and B.Obvious on the next ballot paper for Council elections.
The usual naive "get on the council and change it" tactic - If you think that'd make any difference - i suggest you talk to any of the Councillors who resigned over the handing out of eyewatering sums of public money in "redundancy" payments when the council was "unitary-ised". Nobody was sacked after losing £8,000,000 to Iceland. This list of incompetences and foolishness is quite long.

We have a situation where the tail is wagging the dog. Democratic (or any normal) accountability is plainly broken. We have a colossal shortfall in revenue for our public services, road infrasructure is deteriorating and these goons are painting yellow lines to try and corral cars into council revenue traps...

In my own case the council is apparently installing 200m of double yellows on a stretch of road where I can't recall anybody parking for 30 years.... These lines will cost £2000 minimum and require regular repainting...

I don't know what the answer is - what I do know - is that if the council continues to be run at the whim of, and for the benefit of dysfunctional municipal officialdom this is going to end up in tears.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: I look forward to seeing the names of M.Wurzel and B.Obvious on the next ballot paper for Council elections.[/p][/quote]The usual naive "get on the council and change it" tactic - If you think that'd make any difference - i suggest you talk to any of the Councillors who resigned over the handing out of eyewatering sums of public money in "redundancy" payments when the council was "unitary-ised". Nobody was sacked after losing £8,000,000 to Iceland. This list of incompetences and foolishness is quite long. We have a situation where the tail is wagging the dog. Democratic (or any normal) accountability is plainly broken. We have a colossal shortfall in revenue for our public services, road infrasructure is deteriorating and these goons are painting yellow lines to try and corral cars into council revenue traps... In my own case the council is apparently installing 200m of double yellows on a stretch of road where I can't recall anybody parking for 30 years.... These lines will cost £2000 minimum and require regular repainting... I don't know what the answer is - what I do know - is that if the council continues to be run at the whim of, and for the benefit of dysfunctional municipal officialdom this is going to end up in tears. moonrakin wurzel

12:07pm Mon 1 Apr 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

"The usual naive "get on the council and change it" tactic - If you think that'd make any difference..."

That isn't what I was thinking at all. I just thought once you were "on the council" then we could all call you an idiot. And having someone as befuddled as 'blindingly obvious' as a councillor would be fun.
"The usual naive "get on the council and change it" tactic - If you think that'd make any difference..." That isn't what I was thinking at all. I just thought once you were "on the council" then we could all call you an idiot. And having someone as befuddled as 'blindingly obvious' as a councillor would be fun. Mrs Donnyfly

3:55pm Mon 1 Apr 13

jigsaw 5 says...

Most of lines up Drynham and Dursley are unenforceable lines. There are NO warning signs so park all you want on them until they are in place.
Most of lines up Drynham and Dursley are unenforceable lines. There are NO warning signs so park all you want on them until they are in place. jigsaw 5

7:42pm Mon 1 Apr 13

moonrakin wurzel says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
"The usual naive "get on the council and change it" tactic - If you think that'd make any difference..."

That isn't what I was thinking at all. I just thought once you were "on the council" then we could all call you an idiot. And having someone as befuddled as 'blindingly obvious' as a councillor would be fun.
You seem to have missed the point - which is that we do *not* have accountability or fiscal responsibility - schemes and funds are essentially sanctioned by municipal officials and rubber stamped by Councillors - sometimes the officials act without the rubber stamp - and they most certainly don't seem to want to defend their activities or be disciplined for screw-ups....

These officials live in their own self regarding little bubble and as far as Trowbridge is concerned - they don't for the most part have to suffer the parking charges and restrictions they've imposed.

This looks simply like a mean and sour attempt to inconvenience those taxpayers who've chosen not to use the overpriced municipal parking facilities and further inconvenience residents near the town centre who been suffering the consequences of the short sighted inept money grubbing parking policy since responsibility for parking enforcement was grabbed by the council.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: "The usual naive "get on the council and change it" tactic - If you think that'd make any difference..." That isn't what I was thinking at all. I just thought once you were "on the council" then we could all call you an idiot. And having someone as befuddled as 'blindingly obvious' as a councillor would be fun.[/p][/quote]You seem to have missed the point - which is that we do *not* have accountability or fiscal responsibility - schemes and funds are essentially sanctioned by municipal officials and rubber stamped by Councillors - sometimes the officials act without the rubber stamp - and they most certainly don't seem to want to defend their activities or be disciplined for screw-ups.... These officials live in their own self regarding little bubble and as far as Trowbridge is concerned - they don't for the most part have to suffer the parking charges and restrictions they've imposed. This looks simply like a mean and sour attempt to inconvenience those taxpayers who've chosen not to use the overpriced municipal parking facilities and further inconvenience residents near the town centre who been suffering the consequences of the short sighted inept money grubbing parking policy since responsibility for parking enforcement was grabbed by the council. moonrakin wurzel

8:29pm Mon 1 Apr 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

Actually Wurzel I didn't miss your point at all. I know what your saying. But nevertheless, I still don't see there's a connection between trying to get people to use pay and display car parks and painting yellow lines on streets in Studley Green or other far flung residential areas.

And for the record I am not a supporter of Wiltshire Council, in fact I detest the way both local and national government impose themselves on our lives and I feel we would all be a lot better off without them.
Actually Wurzel I didn't miss your point at all. I know what your saying. But nevertheless, I still don't see there's a connection between trying to get people to use pay and display car parks and painting yellow lines on streets in Studley Green or other far flung residential areas. And for the record I am not a supporter of Wiltshire Council, in fact I detest the way both local and national government impose themselves on our lives and I feel we would all be a lot better off without them. Mrs Donnyfly

11:01pm Mon 1 Apr 13

beetawix says...

jigsaw 5 wrote:
Most of lines up Drynham and Dursley are unenforceable lines. There are NO warning signs so park all you want on them until they are in place.
Thanks, we'll be around on Tuesday
[quote][p][bold]jigsaw 5[/bold] wrote: Most of lines up Drynham and Dursley are unenforceable lines. There are NO warning signs so park all you want on them until they are in place.[/p][/quote]Thanks, we'll be around on Tuesday beetawix

11:11pm Mon 1 Apr 13

beetawix says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
Actually Wurzel I didn't miss your point at all. I know what your saying. But nevertheless, I still don't see there's a connection between trying to get people to use pay and display car parks and painting yellow lines on streets in Studley Green or other far flung residential areas.

And for the record I am not a supporter of Wiltshire Council, in fact I detest the way both local and national government impose themselves on our lives and I feel we would all be a lot better off without them.
Old ma D detests the way both local and national government impose themselves on our lives and I feel we would all be a lot better off without them.

moving in that direction already. Service cuts, staff cuts, nothing much to direct leading to chuck outs of directors.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: Actually Wurzel I didn't miss your point at all. I know what your saying. But nevertheless, I still don't see there's a connection between trying to get people to use pay and display car parks and painting yellow lines on streets in Studley Green or other far flung residential areas. And for the record I am not a supporter of Wiltshire Council, in fact I detest the way both local and national government impose themselves on our lives and I feel we would all be a lot better off without them.[/p][/quote]Old ma D detests the way both local and national government impose themselves on our lives and I feel we would all be a lot better off without them. moving in that direction already. Service cuts, staff cuts, nothing much to direct leading to chuck outs of directors. beetawix

2:15am Tue 2 Apr 13

moonrakin wurzel says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
Actually Wurzel I didn't miss your point at all. I know what your saying. But nevertheless, I still don't see there's a connection between trying to get people to use pay and display car parks and painting yellow lines on streets in Studley Green or other far flung residential areas.

And for the record I am not a supporter of Wiltshire Council, in fact I detest the way both local and national government impose themselves on our lives and I feel we would all be a lot better off without them.
Hmm... I see your point of view but as somebody who's apparently getting 200m ++ of utterly pointless eyesore double yellow lines outside my house and having to endure illegal parking that the council actually won't deal with - this looks to me like yet another expensive foulup that causes more problems than it supposedly addresses - I can't wait for the chorus of bleating when the utterly idiotic "crazy golf course" of chicane bollards and humps appear in the middle of BoA :-).

Well, we'll see - but I suspect the grasping incompetent boobs employed at public expense will just extend the street no park zones again if this doesn't work. In all, a woeful display of arrogance and incompetence - the council can't even follow the rules for going about this sort of thing properly.

I personally have no problem with the concept of people employed at shared public expense to perform tasks of benefit to the wider community. What I do have a problem with is people I'm paying to do a job - not doing it - and trying to ransom back to me communally held assets and being able to throw me in jail and seize my property if I refuse to contribute.

It shouldn't be like it is at the moment - collaboration with the taxpayers, accountability and competence look to be at an all time low.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: Actually Wurzel I didn't miss your point at all. I know what your saying. But nevertheless, I still don't see there's a connection between trying to get people to use pay and display car parks and painting yellow lines on streets in Studley Green or other far flung residential areas. And for the record I am not a supporter of Wiltshire Council, in fact I detest the way both local and national government impose themselves on our lives and I feel we would all be a lot better off without them.[/p][/quote]Hmm... I see your point of view but as somebody who's apparently getting 200m ++ of utterly pointless eyesore double yellow lines outside my house and having to endure illegal parking that the council actually won't deal with - this looks to me like yet another expensive foulup that causes more problems than it supposedly addresses - I can't wait for the chorus of bleating when the utterly idiotic "crazy golf course" of chicane bollards and humps appear in the middle of BoA :-). Well, we'll see - but I suspect the grasping incompetent boobs employed at public expense will just extend the street no park zones again if this doesn't work. In all, a woeful display of arrogance and incompetence - the council can't even follow the rules for going about this sort of thing properly. I personally have no problem with the concept of people employed at shared public expense to perform tasks of benefit to the wider community. What I do have a problem with is people I'm paying to do a job - not doing it - and trying to ransom back to me communally held assets and being able to throw me in jail and seize my property if I refuse to contribute. It shouldn't be like it is at the moment - collaboration with the taxpayers, accountability and competence look to be at an all time low. moonrakin wurzel

7:33am Tue 2 Apr 13

Highways68 says...

beetawix wrote:
jigsaw 5 wrote: Most of lines up Drynham and Dursley are unenforceable lines. There are NO warning signs so park all you want on them until they are in place.
Thanks, we'll be around on Tuesday
Double yellow lines don't need signs...park at your peril!!!!
[quote][p][bold]beetawix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jigsaw 5[/bold] wrote: Most of lines up Drynham and Dursley are unenforceable lines. There are NO warning signs so park all you want on them until they are in place.[/p][/quote]Thanks, we'll be around on Tuesday[/p][/quote]Double yellow lines don't need signs...park at your peril!!!! Highways68

2:36pm Tue 2 Apr 13

sirroms says...

I noticed these appeared in Bellfield Crescent a couple of weeks ago. I have to use Bellfield as I cannot afford the £1,227 (bl00dy YES, £1,227 legalised extortion racket) the council want for a yearly residents parking permit! The lines have now made parking there even worse and extreme congested! The lines go far beyond any safe distance!
There is a lot of ill feeling amongst Trow Vegas residents, the council have gone way too far!
I noticed these appeared in Bellfield Crescent a couple of weeks ago. I have to use Bellfield as I cannot afford the £1,227 (bl00dy YES, £1,227 legalised extortion racket) the council want for a yearly residents parking permit! The lines have now made parking there even worse and extreme congested! The lines go far beyond any safe distance! There is a lot of ill feeling amongst Trow Vegas residents, the council have gone way too far! sirroms

2:58pm Tue 2 Apr 13

AMVanquish007 says...

I didn't realize that parking permits had been created for any street parking in Trowbridge. Unless its for a disabled space can you clarify Sirroms
I didn't realize that parking permits had been created for any street parking in Trowbridge. Unless its for a disabled space can you clarify Sirroms AMVanquish007

2:58pm Tue 2 Apr 13

AMVanquish007 says...

I didn't realize that parking permits had been created for any street parking in Trowbridge. Unless its for a disabled space can you clarify Sirroms
I didn't realize that parking permits had been created for any street parking in Trowbridge. Unless its for a disabled space can you clarify Sirroms AMVanquish007

3:10pm Tue 2 Apr 13

sirroms says...

Sorry AMVanquish007..... I should have mentioned they want a fee of £1,227 for me to park in the Lovemead car park.
Also I know the residents of Bellfield are getting increasingly p!ssed off with their street being an alternate car park! The congestion would annoy the hell out of me but what are we supposed to do.... the last time I purchased a parking permit and this was only a few years ago it was around £300 :-( why such a price hike?????
Sorry AMVanquish007..... I should have mentioned they want a fee of £1,227 for me to park in the Lovemead car park. Also I know the residents of Bellfield are getting increasingly p!ssed off with their street being an alternate car park! The congestion would annoy the hell out of me but what are we supposed to do.... the last time I purchased a parking permit and this was only a few years ago it was around £300 :-( why such a price hike????? sirroms

3:44pm Tue 2 Apr 13

Jellybabe says...

Some of these roads do need restricted parking, they are not easy to access.
Maybe not all of the streets listed need them, but my husband does drive a dust cart and is forever moaning about trying to get down the likes of Bond street, Waterworks Road etc without mounting the pavement and trying to avoid damage to parked vehicles or trying to turn the vehicles around on the likes of Gladstone road etc. So yes it could be near impossible at times for emergency vehicles.
Some of these roads do need restricted parking, they are not easy to access. Maybe not all of the streets listed need them, but my husband does drive a dust cart and is forever moaning about trying to get down the likes of Bond street, Waterworks Road etc without mounting the pavement and trying to avoid damage to parked vehicles or trying to turn the vehicles around on the likes of Gladstone road etc. So yes it could be near impossible at times for emergency vehicles. Jellybabe

4:07pm Tue 2 Apr 13

jigsaw 5 says...

Has anyone actually seen an enforcer of these new lines yet??
Has anyone actually seen an enforcer of these new lines yet?? jigsaw 5

4:50pm Tue 2 Apr 13

Hobbits says...

Little information for you all

The Trowbridge review relates back to requests made since 2008.

Requests were received from the Town Council, Members, emergency services, waste and recycling services and the general public.

All the restrictions were advertised in the local press, in libraries and with site notices during December 2011.

The implementation has been delayed due to objections and comment received and the need to obtain permission to proceed via a delegated decision from Councillor Tonge. The Town Council and Unitary members are aware of and have approved the proposals
Little information for you all The Trowbridge review relates back to requests made since 2008. Requests were received from the Town Council, Members, emergency services, waste and recycling services and the general public. All the restrictions were advertised in the local press, in libraries and with site notices during December 2011. The implementation has been delayed due to objections and comment received and the need to obtain permission to proceed via a delegated decision from Councillor Tonge. The Town Council and Unitary members are aware of and have approved the proposals Hobbits

6:18pm Tue 2 Apr 13

Highways68 says...

Funny how it always comes back to paying for parking and parking charges!

Why is it considered the responsibility of the Council to provide free parking in car parks? Has anyone been outside Wiltshire??? Seen how much it costs to park elsewhere?? Oh yeah I pay my council tax, it should be free, quite agree, charge people for sending their kids to school instead!!! We're living in tough times I afraid.

So to avoid paying for parking drivers park on the highway. Mayble a re-reading of the highway code would be in order, don't park within 10m of a junction, don't park on a bend, don't obstruct access drop kerbs, etc, etc etc.....

If drivers can't adhere to the highway code which is basically good driving manners, the Council has every right as the Highway Authority to enforce restrictions. You only have to take a spin around town to see the issues with obstruction at junctions, parking on footways and the narrowing of carriageway widths due to parking on bothsides of the road. If drivers want to park on the road and avoid parking charges, fine, do considerately and responsibily, find somewhere where it won't be an issue and hey presto, no problemo, but obviously that may involve slightly more than a 5 minute walk into town, so just park where you can dump the car!!
Funny how it always comes back to paying for parking and parking charges! Why is it considered the responsibility of the Council to provide free parking in car parks? Has anyone been outside Wiltshire??? Seen how much it costs to park elsewhere?? Oh yeah I pay my council tax, it should be free, quite agree, charge people for sending their kids to school instead!!! We're living in tough times I afraid. So to avoid paying for parking drivers park on the highway. Mayble a re-reading of the highway code would be in order, don't park within 10m of a junction, don't park on a bend, don't obstruct access drop kerbs, etc, etc etc..... If drivers can't adhere to the highway code which is basically good driving manners, the Council has every right as the Highway Authority to enforce restrictions. You only have to take a spin around town to see the issues with obstruction at junctions, parking on footways and the narrowing of carriageway widths due to parking on bothsides of the road. If drivers want to park on the road and avoid parking charges, fine, do considerately and responsibily, find somewhere where it won't be an issue and hey presto, no problemo, but obviously that may involve slightly more than a 5 minute walk into town, so just park where you can dump the car!! Highways68

7:21pm Tue 2 Apr 13

Trowbridge Tracey says...

I live in one of the roads that have had yellow lines painted. I always have trouble getting in and out of my driveway due to parked cars, but the Council in their wisdown actually painted the yellow lines on the part of the road where no-one ever parked! So we still have the same problem and emergency services would still struggle with access as cars are still parking on the other side of the road. A little more thought wouldn't have gone a miss, or consultation with the people that actually live in these streets. The worst time is on a Sunday when people park anywhere possible to go to church, not the workers in the week who park fairly responsibly.
I live in one of the roads that have had yellow lines painted. I always have trouble getting in and out of my driveway due to parked cars, but the Council in their wisdown actually painted the yellow lines on the part of the road where no-one ever parked! So we still have the same problem and emergency services would still struggle with access as cars are still parking on the other side of the road. A little more thought wouldn't have gone a miss, or consultation with the people that actually live in these streets. The worst time is on a Sunday when people park anywhere possible to go to church, not the workers in the week who park fairly responsibly. Trowbridge Tracey

10:00pm Tue 2 Apr 13

moonrakin wurzel says...

Hobbits wrote:
Little information for you all

The Trowbridge review relates back to requests made since 2008.

Requests were received from the Town Council, Members, emergency services, waste and recycling services and the general public.

All the restrictions were advertised in the local press, in libraries and with site notices during December 2011.

The implementation has been delayed due to objections and comment received and the need to obtain permission to proceed via a delegated decision from Councillor Tonge. The Town Council and Unitary members are aware of and have approved the proposals
And how much has it cost?

The council is statutorily obliged to formally respond to objections and comment within a fixed time frame - I have never been contacted about my concerns lodged with the council in 2011.

The banditry of parking permit fees is shameful £300>>£1000 hike speaks for itself. The Stallards P&D car park has 25 spaces - average daytime occupancy less than 4 cars - many days none at all.

Somebody mentioned church goers - it would seem that there's been a papal dispensation for Wingfield Road! 20 cars on double yellows last Sunday if I'm not mistaken.

The council doesn't seem to want to acknowledge supermarket car parks or the Spitfire retail park and the perceived cost of parking .... to those who go on about parking elsewhere - other places have their problems and the other councils have been even more blatant about gouging the maximum ransom from their victims. Municipal parking is a service not an ambush opportunity.

What a mess

http://eryc-parking.
blogspot.co.uk/
[quote][p][bold]Hobbits[/bold] wrote: Little information for you all The Trowbridge review relates back to requests made since 2008. Requests were received from the Town Council, Members, emergency services, waste and recycling services and the general public. All the restrictions were advertised in the local press, in libraries and with site notices during December 2011. The implementation has been delayed due to objections and comment received and the need to obtain permission to proceed via a delegated decision from Councillor Tonge. The Town Council and Unitary members are aware of and have approved the proposals[/p][/quote]And how much has it cost? The council is statutorily obliged to formally respond to objections and comment within a fixed time frame - I have never been contacted about my concerns lodged with the council in 2011. The banditry of parking permit fees is shameful £300>>£1000 hike speaks for itself. The Stallards P&D car park has 25 spaces - average daytime occupancy less than 4 cars - many days none at all. Somebody mentioned church goers - it would seem that there's been a papal dispensation for Wingfield Road! 20 cars on double yellows last Sunday if I'm not mistaken. The council doesn't seem to want to acknowledge supermarket car parks or the Spitfire retail park and the perceived cost of parking .... to those who go on about parking elsewhere - other places have their problems and the other councils have been even more blatant about gouging the maximum ransom from their victims. Municipal parking is a service not an ambush opportunity. What a mess http://eryc-parking. blogspot.co.uk/ moonrakin wurzel

11:47pm Tue 2 Apr 13

Wazupdoc says...

Will the Council be providing compensation for the devaluation of my home, who will want to buy my house now when I cant even park outside my own house. I don't have a drive way or garage and will now have to park some distance away. How am I supposed to get my disabled wife from the car in to the house, oh the Council never thought of this did they! This useless Council have to go!
Will the Council be providing compensation for the devaluation of my home, who will want to buy my house now when I cant even park outside my own house. I don't have a drive way or garage and will now have to park some distance away. How am I supposed to get my disabled wife from the car in to the house, oh the Council never thought of this did they! This useless Council have to go! Wazupdoc

8:52am Wed 3 Apr 13

sirroms says...

To my utter disbelief the lines on St Thomas road have been extended since yesterday!!!!
FFS what's going on here! Can anyone please let me know the mechanism to make a complaint (not that I think for one moment it will be listened to!)
This is beyond a joke now!
To my utter disbelief the lines on St Thomas road have been extended since yesterday!!!! FFS what's going on here! Can anyone please let me know the mechanism to make a complaint (not that I think for one moment it will be listened to!) This is beyond a joke now! sirroms

12:11pm Wed 3 Apr 13

AMVanquish007 says...

Your chance Sirroms will come in less than a month on the May 2 elections.
Maybe this should be a wake up call to all the 3 main parties and we should all vote to make this council made up of more independents or at least those that will hold the balance of power over the largest party to reign in some of these daft highways restrictions and car parking policies.
Also to counter the denying of valid, worthwhile, job creating leisure developments like Innox Riverside which had 80% support of the general public but at every attempt obstacles were put up to try and stop it.
Shortly this development, hopefully with the Cineworld cinema included, will be constructed and will add 550 free car parking spaces for the benefit of the development and Trowbridge.
Your chance Sirroms will come in less than a month on the May 2 elections. Maybe this should be a wake up call to all the 3 main parties and we should all vote to make this council made up of more independents or at least those that will hold the balance of power over the largest party to reign in some of these daft highways restrictions and car parking policies. Also to counter the denying of valid, worthwhile, job creating leisure developments like Innox Riverside which had 80% support of the general public but at every attempt obstacles were put up to try and stop it. Shortly this development, hopefully with the Cineworld cinema included, will be constructed and will add 550 free car parking spaces for the benefit of the development and Trowbridge. AMVanquish007

5:45pm Wed 3 Apr 13

the optimist says...

sirroms wrote:
Sorry AMVanquish007..... I should have mentioned they want a fee of £1,227 for me to park in the Lovemead car park.
Also I know the residents of Bellfield are getting increasingly p!ssed off with their street being an alternate car park! The congestion would annoy the hell out of me but what are we supposed to do.... the last time I purchased a parking permit and this was only a few years ago it was around £300 :-( why such a price hike?????
Have you checked with Wiltshire Council's parking administration team for "Off Street Residents parking permit" prices as I was quoted £154 for a 12 mth permit in Lovemead when I asked last year? To get this you have to prove you are a resident and supply your car details.

As far as I know the £1,227 is for a non resident to buy a permit and park in Lovemead?
[quote][p][bold]sirroms[/bold] wrote: Sorry AMVanquish007..... I should have mentioned they want a fee of £1,227 for me to park in the Lovemead car park. Also I know the residents of Bellfield are getting increasingly p!ssed off with their street being an alternate car park! The congestion would annoy the hell out of me but what are we supposed to do.... the last time I purchased a parking permit and this was only a few years ago it was around £300 :-( why such a price hike?????[/p][/quote]Have you checked with Wiltshire Council's parking administration team for "Off Street Residents parking permit" prices as I was quoted £154 for a 12 mth permit in Lovemead when I asked last year? To get this you have to prove you are a resident and supply your car details. As far as I know the £1,227 is for a non resident to buy a permit and park in Lovemead? the optimist

6:44pm Wed 3 Apr 13

18Years says...

AMVanquish007 wrote:
Your chance Sirroms will come in less than a month on the May 2 elections.
Maybe this should be a wake up call to all the 3 main parties and we should all vote to make this council made up of more independents or at least those that will hold the balance of power over the largest party to reign in some of these daft highways restrictions and car parking policies.
Also to counter the denying of valid, worthwhile, job creating leisure developments like Innox Riverside which had 80% support of the general public but at every attempt obstacles were put up to try and stop it.
Shortly this development, hopefully with the Cineworld cinema included, will be constructed and will add 550 free car parking spaces for the benefit of the development and Trowbridge.
Stop relating EVERYTHING back to the cinema! People are discussing parking as this is an article about double yellow lines, not about the Bowyers/SSP developments. And even on posts relating to them I am so bored of your rambling, repetitive rants! As this is an article about PARKING, not CINEMAS, the only thing I'm going to say on that subject is that anyone I've talked to is just grateful to be getting a cinema. Just stop now, it's a bit sad and pathetic. Sorry to everyone who wants to discuss the parking issue for this unrelated post, just fed up of his unrelentless moaning, how long has he been having this tantrum for now? 18 months? Good lord!
[quote][p][bold]AMVanquish007[/bold] wrote: Your chance Sirroms will come in less than a month on the May 2 elections. Maybe this should be a wake up call to all the 3 main parties and we should all vote to make this council made up of more independents or at least those that will hold the balance of power over the largest party to reign in some of these daft highways restrictions and car parking policies. Also to counter the denying of valid, worthwhile, job creating leisure developments like Innox Riverside which had 80% support of the general public but at every attempt obstacles were put up to try and stop it. Shortly this development, hopefully with the Cineworld cinema included, will be constructed and will add 550 free car parking spaces for the benefit of the development and Trowbridge.[/p][/quote]Stop relating EVERYTHING back to the cinema! People are discussing parking as this is an article about double yellow lines, not about the Bowyers/SSP developments. And even on posts relating to them I am so bored of your rambling, repetitive rants! As this is an article about PARKING, not CINEMAS, the only thing I'm going to say on that subject is that anyone I've talked to is just grateful to be getting a cinema. Just stop now, it's a bit sad and pathetic. Sorry to everyone who wants to discuss the parking issue for this unrelated post, just fed up of his unrelentless moaning, how long has he been having this tantrum for now? 18 months? Good lord! 18Years

12:15am Thu 4 Apr 13

wiltshirebloke says...

moonrakin wurzel wrote:
Hobbits wrote:
Little information for you all

The Trowbridge review relates back to requests made since 2008.

Requests were received from the Town Council, Members, emergency services, waste and recycling services and the general public.

All the restrictions were advertised in the local press, in libraries and with site notices during December 2011.

The implementation has been delayed due to objections and comment received and the need to obtain permission to proceed via a delegated decision from Councillor Tonge. The Town Council and Unitary members are aware of and have approved the proposals
And how much has it cost?

The council is statutorily obliged to formally respond to objections and comment within a fixed time frame - I have never been contacted about my concerns lodged with the council in 2011.

The banditry of parking permit fees is shameful £300>>£1000 hike speaks for itself. The Stallards P&D car park has 25 spaces - average daytime occupancy less than 4 cars - many days none at all.

Somebody mentioned church goers - it would seem that there's been a papal dispensation for Wingfield Road! 20 cars on double yellows last Sunday if I'm not mistaken.

The council doesn't seem to want to acknowledge supermarket car parks or the Spitfire retail park and the perceived cost of parking .... to those who go on about parking elsewhere - other places have their problems and the other councils have been even more blatant about gouging the maximum ransom from their victims. Municipal parking is a service not an ambush opportunity.

What a mess

http://eryc-parking.

blogspot.co.uk/
A very good point has been brought up by previous posters. When will the traffic situation be addressed outside of the St John's Church Hall ? Churchgoers do seem to think they are above the law and park all along the double yellow lines on Sunday Mornings and other Service times - and because the Council employed wardens only seem to work office hours, they're never around to enforce these breaches.

The council could use the money recovered to help towards the resurfacing of Wingfield Road, which is a disgrace!
[quote][p][bold]moonrakin wurzel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hobbits[/bold] wrote: Little information for you all The Trowbridge review relates back to requests made since 2008. Requests were received from the Town Council, Members, emergency services, waste and recycling services and the general public. All the restrictions were advertised in the local press, in libraries and with site notices during December 2011. The implementation has been delayed due to objections and comment received and the need to obtain permission to proceed via a delegated decision from Councillor Tonge. The Town Council and Unitary members are aware of and have approved the proposals[/p][/quote]And how much has it cost? The council is statutorily obliged to formally respond to objections and comment within a fixed time frame - I have never been contacted about my concerns lodged with the council in 2011. The banditry of parking permit fees is shameful £300>>£1000 hike speaks for itself. The Stallards P&D car park has 25 spaces - average daytime occupancy less than 4 cars - many days none at all. Somebody mentioned church goers - it would seem that there's been a papal dispensation for Wingfield Road! 20 cars on double yellows last Sunday if I'm not mistaken. The council doesn't seem to want to acknowledge supermarket car parks or the Spitfire retail park and the perceived cost of parking .... to those who go on about parking elsewhere - other places have their problems and the other councils have been even more blatant about gouging the maximum ransom from their victims. Municipal parking is a service not an ambush opportunity. What a mess http://eryc-parking. blogspot.co.uk/[/p][/quote]A very good point has been brought up by previous posters. When will the traffic situation be addressed outside of the St John's Church Hall ? Churchgoers do seem to think they are above the law and park all along the double yellow lines on Sunday Mornings and other Service times - and because the Council employed wardens only seem to work office hours, they're never around to enforce these breaches. The council could use the money recovered to help towards the resurfacing of Wingfield Road, which is a disgrace! wiltshirebloke

5:54am Thu 4 Apr 13

AMVanquish007 says...

Yes 18yrs-this most definitely is about parking and if you have paid attention over the last 2 years you will know that i have said that there is a lack of car parking when it comes to the St Stephens Place development which will affect and impact on these side roads within a mile of it when it opens in October.
But, of course, 18yrs, you know everything about multiplexes and their impact on an area dont you?
You should be grateful that I am keeping this high profile and on the agenda and keeping this council on their toes because come October quite a few of you will suddenly be posting blogs on here about the increase of traffic taking shortcuts down these roads with restrictions-of traffic trying to park- and the blockbacks that will most definitely happen on holiday dates.
Maybe then you will apologize for this 'rant' as you call it.
Yes 18yrs-this most definitely is about parking and if you have paid attention over the last 2 years you will know that i have said that there is a lack of car parking when it comes to the St Stephens Place development which will affect and impact on these side roads within a mile of it when it opens in October. But, of course, 18yrs, you know everything about multiplexes and their impact on an area dont you? You should be grateful that I am keeping this high profile and on the agenda and keeping this council on their toes because come October quite a few of you will suddenly be posting blogs on here about the increase of traffic taking shortcuts down these roads with restrictions-of traffic trying to park- and the blockbacks that will most definitely happen on holiday dates. Maybe then you will apologize for this 'rant' as you call it. AMVanquish007

7:50am Thu 4 Apr 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

Vanquish said - "this most definitely is about parking and if you have paid attention over the last 2 years you will know that i have said that there is a lack of car parking when it comes to the St Stephens Place development which will affect and impact on these side roads within a mile of it when it opens in October."

Yes, it is about parking, but nothing to do with St Stephen's Place and nowhere to park and the impact on side roads within one mile radius as the majority of streets being painted are well over one mile away. It would seem to be for other reasons the lines are being painted.

..."You should be grateful that I am keeping this high profile and on the agenda and keeping this council on their toes because come October quite a few of you will suddenly be posting blogs on here about the increase of traffic taking shortcuts down these roads with restrictions-of traffic trying to park- and the blockbacks that will most definitely happen on holiday dates.
Maybe then you will apologize for this 'rant' as you call it..."

If correct then maybe you can be nominated for some kind of humanitarian award or sage of the year award. If you're wrong and St Stephen's Place is a success and you end up looking like a complete chump maybe then you should apologize for being such a crushing bore.
Vanquish said - "this most definitely is about parking and if you have paid attention over the last 2 years you will know that i have said that there is a lack of car parking when it comes to the St Stephens Place development which will affect and impact on these side roads within a mile of it when it opens in October." Yes, it is about parking, but nothing to do with St Stephen's Place and nowhere to park and the impact on side roads within one mile radius as the majority of streets being painted are well over one mile away. It would seem to be for other reasons the lines are being painted. ..."You should be grateful that I am keeping this high profile and on the agenda and keeping this council on their toes because come October quite a few of you will suddenly be posting blogs on here about the increase of traffic taking shortcuts down these roads with restrictions-of traffic trying to park- and the blockbacks that will most definitely happen on holiday dates. Maybe then you will apologize for this 'rant' as you call it..." If correct then maybe you can be nominated for some kind of humanitarian award or sage of the year award. If you're wrong and St Stephen's Place is a success and you end up looking like a complete chump maybe then you should apologize for being such a crushing bore. Mrs Donnyfly

8:30am Thu 4 Apr 13

sirroms says...

Thanks the optimist! I got my figures from the website where I can imagine the £154 price is buried deep away from inquisitive eyes..... I will be calling them today :-)
Thanks the optimist! I got my figures from the website where I can imagine the £154 price is buried deep away from inquisitive eyes..... I will be calling them today :-) sirroms

9:14am Thu 4 Apr 13

18Years says...

AMVanquish007 wrote:
Yes 18yrs-this most definitely is about parking and if you have paid attention over the last 2 years you will know that i have said that there is a lack of car parking when it comes to the St Stephens Place development which will affect and impact on these side roads within a mile of it when it opens in October.
But, of course, 18yrs, you know everything about multiplexes and their impact on an area dont you?
You should be grateful that I am keeping this high profile and on the agenda and keeping this council on their toes because come October quite a few of you will suddenly be posting blogs on here about the increase of traffic taking shortcuts down these roads with restrictions-of traffic trying to park- and the blockbacks that will most definitely happen on holiday dates.
Maybe then you will apologize for this 'rant' as you call it.
Oh BORE off! This IS about parking, but you're using it to push your own opinions (which we've all heard before) and agenda.
You can't predict the future - what you said might happen, also it might not, we'll see what happens and if there is a problem, which is then dealt with, I highly doubt it'll have anything to do with your rants (yes, I said it, rants, because that's what they are). Like I said, the majority of us are just grateful for a cinema, which has now opened up the possibility of the Peter Blacks site being renovated (considering you're such a great psychic, one of your predictions was incorrect as I distinctly remember you saying this would NEVER happen). The only thing I'm grateful for when it comes to your posts is that when I'm having a particularly restless night I can read one and fall asleep within two minutes.
Now PLEASE, at the very least go and post your boring, repetitive RANTS somewhere relevant. Thank you.
[quote][p][bold]AMVanquish007[/bold] wrote: Yes 18yrs-this most definitely is about parking and if you have paid attention over the last 2 years you will know that i have said that there is a lack of car parking when it comes to the St Stephens Place development which will affect and impact on these side roads within a mile of it when it opens in October. But, of course, 18yrs, you know everything about multiplexes and their impact on an area dont you? You should be grateful that I am keeping this high profile and on the agenda and keeping this council on their toes because come October quite a few of you will suddenly be posting blogs on here about the increase of traffic taking shortcuts down these roads with restrictions-of traffic trying to park- and the blockbacks that will most definitely happen on holiday dates. Maybe then you will apologize for this 'rant' as you call it.[/p][/quote]Oh BORE off! This IS about parking, but you're using it to push your own opinions (which we've all heard before) and agenda. You can't predict the future - what you said might happen, also it might not, we'll see what happens and if there is a problem, which is then dealt with, I highly doubt it'll have anything to do with your rants (yes, I said it, rants, because that's what they are). Like I said, the majority of us are just grateful for a cinema, which has now opened up the possibility of the Peter Blacks site being renovated (considering you're such a great psychic, one of your predictions was incorrect as I distinctly remember you saying this would NEVER happen). The only thing I'm grateful for when it comes to your posts is that when I'm having a particularly restless night I can read one and fall asleep within two minutes. Now PLEASE, at the very least go and post your boring, repetitive RANTS somewhere relevant. Thank you. 18Years

9:38am Thu 4 Apr 13

sirroms says...

The Optimist you are a complete star!
I gave the sneaky bu88ers a call and its £158 for a years parking instead of the £1,227 quoted on the website!
Many thanks for that :-)
The Optimist you are a complete star! I gave the sneaky bu88ers a call and its £158 for a years parking instead of the £1,227 quoted on the website! Many thanks for that :-) sirroms

11:57am Thu 4 Apr 13

the optimist says...

sirroms wrote:
The Optimist you are a complete star!
I gave the sneaky bu88ers a call and its £158 for a years parking instead of the £1,227 quoted on the website!
Many thanks for that :-)
Just trying to help

Please let your neighbours and friends know if you succeed.

Best wishes :-)
[quote][p][bold]sirroms[/bold] wrote: The Optimist you are a complete star! I gave the sneaky bu88ers a call and its £158 for a years parking instead of the £1,227 quoted on the website! Many thanks for that :-)[/p][/quote]Just trying to help Please let your neighbours and friends know if you succeed. Best wishes :-) the optimist

1:01pm Thu 4 Apr 13

sirroms says...

@optimist

Will do and thanks again!
@optimist Will do and thanks again! sirroms

1:05pm Thu 4 Apr 13

AMVanquish007 says...

I appreciate your worthwhile comments 18yrs .But Is 18yrs a reflection of your age because if it is then your lack of experience glows.
Once you've worked for 12 years in local government and 20 years in the head offices of multiplex cinemas and lived in this town all my life, experience tells you that problems are coming.
Also I am pleased that a cinema is cominghere - but until you have stood in council meetings like I have around the country to try and get a local authority to relax its stance on car parking which they then did after realising the cinema and its profitability was under threat. - then I might warm to your comments.
You should resolve these problems before any cinema is constructed not deal with it after
I appreciate your worthwhile comments 18yrs .But Is 18yrs a reflection of your age because if it is then your lack of experience glows. Once you've worked for 12 years in local government and 20 years in the head offices of multiplex cinemas and lived in this town all my life, experience tells you that problems are coming. Also I am pleased that a cinema is cominghere - but until you have stood in council meetings like I have around the country to try and get a local authority to relax its stance on car parking which they then did after realising the cinema and its profitability was under threat. - then I might warm to your comments. You should resolve these problems before any cinema is constructed not deal with it after AMVanquish007

1:40pm Thu 4 Apr 13

Tanglefoot1 says...

By the looks of the lady in the picture she should walk from Hilperton Drive as the excercise will do her good.
By the looks of the lady in the picture she should walk from Hilperton Drive as the excercise will do her good. Tanglefoot1

2:45pm Thu 4 Apr 13

sirroms says...

@tanglefoot

keep the idiotic comments away from serious issues.... tw@t!
@tanglefoot keep the idiotic comments away from serious issues.... tw@t! sirroms

3:09pm Thu 4 Apr 13

18Years says...

AMVanquish007 wrote:
I appreciate your worthwhile comments 18yrs .But Is 18yrs a reflection of your age because if it is then your lack of experience glows.
Once you've worked for 12 years in local government and 20 years in the head offices of multiplex cinemas and lived in this town all my life, experience tells you that problems are coming.
Also I am pleased that a cinema is cominghere - but until you have stood in council meetings like I have around the country to try and get a local authority to relax its stance on car parking which they then did after realising the cinema and its profitability was under threat. - then I might warm to your comments.
You should resolve these problems before any cinema is constructed not deal with it after
This will be my last comment to you as I'm sure no one else wants to read our petty discussion - no, 18Years is not a reflection of my age, it's how long I've lived in Trowbridge. In fact, it's 19 years now, since I made this account last year. Got to say though, I'm not surprised you made that assumption as of course anyone who disagrees with what you're saying must be young and stupid right? Your ego is ridiculously inflated. Anyway, that's it from me now, as I don't make a habit of commenting on random posts to push my agenda. I'll make sure I read your inevitable future posts when I'm struggling to sleep at night :)
[quote][p][bold]AMVanquish007[/bold] wrote: I appreciate your worthwhile comments 18yrs .But Is 18yrs a reflection of your age because if it is then your lack of experience glows. Once you've worked for 12 years in local government and 20 years in the head offices of multiplex cinemas and lived in this town all my life, experience tells you that problems are coming. Also I am pleased that a cinema is cominghere - but until you have stood in council meetings like I have around the country to try and get a local authority to relax its stance on car parking which they then did after realising the cinema and its profitability was under threat. - then I might warm to your comments. You should resolve these problems before any cinema is constructed not deal with it after[/p][/quote]This will be my last comment to you as I'm sure no one else wants to read our petty discussion - no, 18Years is not a reflection of my age, it's how long I've lived in Trowbridge. In fact, it's 19 years now, since I made this account last year. Got to say though, I'm not surprised you made that assumption as of course anyone who disagrees with what you're saying must be young and stupid right? Your ego is ridiculously inflated. Anyway, that's it from me now, as I don't make a habit of commenting on random posts to push my agenda. I'll make sure I read your inevitable future posts when I'm struggling to sleep at night :) 18Years

4:06pm Thu 4 Apr 13

Blanche Terraine says...

For many years inconsiderate people have parked their cars so that I often could not get my car out, or back in if I was lucky enough to get out. Sometimes I could not get to the doctors or missed a train or some other important appointment because selfish people did what they liked. Other inconsiderate people have parked on junctions and on footpaths. Visibility was impaired and there were near-misses and occasional bumps. People in wheelchairs or pushing buggies had to go out into the road when the footpath was blocked. At last the Council has made the roads safer by preventing these obstructions. This is the council’s duty and many people are glad they have acted in the interests of road safety. Council car parks and the cost of using them, are completely separate issues and have nothing to do with road safety. The lady from Hilperton Drive, who parks in  Stancomb Avenue, and said that the parking restrictions were a ludicrous decision, and didn’t eradicate any parking problems, is absolutely wrong. If she has been parking in Stancomb Avenue, she has possibly caused problems. Stancomb Avenue has been congested and dangerous for years because of badly parked cars. Wiltshire Council has acted fairly, reasonably, and properly, and should be applauded for taking this action.
For many years inconsiderate people have parked their cars so that I often could not get my car out, or back in if I was lucky enough to get out. Sometimes I could not get to the doctors or missed a train or some other important appointment because selfish people did what they liked. Other inconsiderate people have parked on junctions and on footpaths. Visibility was impaired and there were near-misses and occasional bumps. People in wheelchairs or pushing buggies had to go out into the road when the footpath was blocked. At last the Council has made the roads safer by preventing these obstructions. This is the council’s duty and many people are glad they have acted in the interests of road safety. Council car parks and the cost of using them, are completely separate issues and have nothing to do with road safety. The lady from Hilperton Drive, who parks in  Stancomb Avenue, and said that the parking restrictions were a ludicrous decision, and didn’t eradicate any parking problems, is absolutely wrong. If she has been parking in Stancomb Avenue, she has possibly caused problems. Stancomb Avenue has been congested and dangerous for years because of badly parked cars. Wiltshire Council has acted fairly, reasonably, and properly, and should be applauded for taking this action. Blanche Terraine

4:26pm Thu 4 Apr 13

sirroms says...

@Blanche

Applauded???

They need to be sacked!
The CONcil should provide free parking in Trow Vegas town centre to breathe some life into it instead of rinsing the already over taxed hard working people of this town! Mind you they probably all took backhanders from the BIG stores to raise town centre parking to encourage people to the out of town stores where there is free parking!
Its not rocket science!!!!
@Blanche Applauded??? They need to be sacked! The CONcil should provide free parking in Trow Vegas town centre to breathe some life into it instead of rinsing the already over taxed hard working people of this town! Mind you they probably all took backhanders from the BIG stores to raise town centre parking to encourage people to the out of town stores where there is free parking! Its not rocket science!!!! sirroms

4:39pm Thu 4 Apr 13

Blanche Terraine says...

No, it's not rocket science, and it's not council car parks either. The article is about waiting restrictions on residential roads on grounds of road safety. If sirroms has evidence of corruption at the council, and believes that councillors or council officers have taken bribes, he should of course notify the police and tell them what he/she knows.
No, it's not rocket science, and it's not council car parks either. The article is about waiting restrictions on residential roads on grounds of road safety. If sirroms has evidence of corruption at the council, and believes that councillors or council officers have taken bribes, he should of course notify the police and tell them what he/she knows. Blanche Terraine

5:46pm Thu 4 Apr 13

18Years says...

Believe me, I'm not a huge fan of the council, far from it in fact, but in relation to the car parking fees, I don't find them that bad. 60p to park in the lower levels of asda car park for two hours for example - while I don't have much money I'm more than happy to pay for that, especially when you compare it to prices in other places like Bath and Bristol. And let's not forget that while the multistorey is a **** hole, at least it's free. I think that some of the lines that have been placed are necessary - off the top of my head I can think of Hungerford Avenue that gets horrendously congested and dangerous at the end of a school day, but some of the lines are pointless and not very well thought out. I do not, however think this is a ploy by the council to get us to park in town car parks, some of the roads mentioned are much too far out of town for that.
Believe me, I'm not a huge fan of the council, far from it in fact, but in relation to the car parking fees, I don't find them that bad. 60p to park in the lower levels of asda car park for two hours for example - while I don't have much money I'm more than happy to pay for that, especially when you compare it to prices in other places like Bath and Bristol. And let's not forget that while the multistorey is a **** hole, at least it's free. I think that some of the lines that have been placed are necessary - off the top of my head I can think of Hungerford Avenue that gets horrendously congested and dangerous at the end of a school day, but some of the lines are pointless and not very well thought out. I do not, however think this is a ploy by the council to get us to park in town car parks, some of the roads mentioned are much too far out of town for that. 18Years

8:24pm Thu 4 Apr 13

AMVanquish007 says...

Well Well ,so,18yrs ,you now cite the multi storey car park to get at somebody else!. It may well be free but in the 2 hr sections which comprise of half of this covenanted car park and given to the town, I might add in 1974, you will be done with a £50 fine if you overstay your welcome. As most performances, plus adverts and getting to find a place to park will mean a 3 hr duration for a family trying to park in a car to go to the cinema- it's going to be a nightmare. Plus the fact that the Premiere Inn will swallow 80 percent of the extra 111 car parking spaces daily and workers will accommodate the rest of the multi storey from 8am- 6pm- you can see how difficult it'll be for anybody to park on a holiday date. They will be looking for available side roads, the very ones which you say aren't near the cinema but quite clearly if you plot them on a map of Trowbridge - they are!!!
I can cite several examples of new multiplexes which opened in the 90's with a painful lack of car parking spaces which inevitably led to the council and local radio being bombarded with irate cinemagoers. Something none of you who have lived in Trowbridge for years will ever have witnessed or experienced like I have.
As for Bath - yes you do pay and its 24 hours unless you can find a single yellow after 630 but at Vue Longwell Green it's totally free all day.
30 percent of that cinemas attendance comes from this area. Those people with cars will be well hacked off if they cannot park in close proximity- I can assure you of that. It is quite different with Bath as most go in by train to that cinema anyway.
Now, if its a question of trying to get emergency vehicles down these confined roads, the county council obviously did not take the experience of a district council across into its unitary makeup as of 2010.
Special refuse vehicles were purchased with a short width and extended wheelbase for areas with confined roads especially Bradford in Avon . I see no reason that a fire engine cannot be purchased under those same technical specifications and considerations.
And finally these single and double yellow extensions have been done without proper consultation. A letter should have been put through each door of any affected property. It's not good enough to say that you see public notices in the library or in the Wiltshire Times. 80 percent of residents don't go to the library or even read the Wiltshire Times. It's little wonder that there is vitriol from the general public. Some residents who were able to park during the day cannot now park until after 6. What if those residents take their holidays when their kids do and their only option is to park outside their house because they do not have a drive or garage.
When this council realizes that it is a rural constituency where people need their cars to get to work and if they get cornered into using side streets further afield because their tight household budgets and expensive petrol and diesel are forcing them to make these choices them I might be more considerate of a council who should be more caring than penalising as what appears to be the case here.
Well Well ,so,18yrs ,you now cite the multi storey car park to get at somebody else!. It may well be free but in the 2 hr sections which comprise of half of this covenanted car park and given to the town, I might add in 1974, you will be done with a £50 fine if you overstay your welcome. As most performances, plus adverts and getting to find a place to park will mean a 3 hr duration for a family trying to park in a car to go to the cinema- it's going to be a nightmare. Plus the fact that the Premiere Inn will swallow 80 percent of the extra 111 car parking spaces daily and workers will accommodate the rest of the multi storey from 8am- 6pm- you can see how difficult it'll be for anybody to park on a holiday date. They will be looking for available side roads, the very ones which you say aren't near the cinema but quite clearly if you plot them on a map of Trowbridge - they are!!! I can cite several examples of new multiplexes which opened in the 90's with a painful lack of car parking spaces which inevitably led to the council and local radio being bombarded with irate cinemagoers. Something none of you who have lived in Trowbridge for years will ever have witnessed or experienced like I have. As for Bath - yes you do pay and its 24 hours unless you can find a single yellow after 630 but at Vue Longwell Green it's totally free all day. 30 percent of that cinemas attendance comes from this area. Those people with cars will be well hacked off if they cannot park in close proximity- I can assure you of that. It is quite different with Bath as most go in by train to that cinema anyway. Now, if its a question of trying to get emergency vehicles down these confined roads, the county council obviously did not take the experience of a district council across into its unitary makeup as of 2010. Special refuse vehicles were purchased with a short width and extended wheelbase for areas with confined roads especially Bradford in Avon . I see no reason that a fire engine cannot be purchased under those same technical specifications and considerations. And finally these single and double yellow extensions have been done without proper consultation. A letter should have been put through each door of any affected property. It's not good enough to say that you see public notices in the library or in the Wiltshire Times. 80 percent of residents don't go to the library or even read the Wiltshire Times. It's little wonder that there is vitriol from the general public. Some residents who were able to park during the day cannot now park until after 6. What if those residents take their holidays when their kids do and their only option is to park outside their house because they do not have a drive or garage. When this council realizes that it is a rural constituency where people need their cars to get to work and if they get cornered into using side streets further afield because their tight household budgets and expensive petrol and diesel are forcing them to make these choices them I might be more considerate of a council who should be more caring than penalising as what appears to be the case here. AMVanquish007

8:51pm Thu 4 Apr 13

18Years says...

AMVanquish007 wrote:
Well Well ,so,18yrs ,you now cite the multi storey car park to get at somebody else!. It may well be free but in the 2 hr sections which comprise of half of this covenanted car park and given to the town, I might add in 1974, you will be done with a £50 fine if you overstay your welcome. As most performances, plus adverts and getting to find a place to park will mean a 3 hr duration for a family trying to park in a car to go to the cinema- it's going to be a nightmare. Plus the fact that the Premiere Inn will swallow 80 percent of the extra 111 car parking spaces daily and workers will accommodate the rest of the multi storey from 8am- 6pm- you can see how difficult it'll be for anybody to park on a holiday date. They will be looking for available side roads, the very ones which you say aren't near the cinema but quite clearly if you plot them on a map of Trowbridge - they are!!!
I can cite several examples of new multiplexes which opened in the 90's with a painful lack of car parking spaces which inevitably led to the council and local radio being bombarded with irate cinemagoers. Something none of you who have lived in Trowbridge for years will ever have witnessed or experienced like I have.
As for Bath - yes you do pay and its 24 hours unless you can find a single yellow after 630 but at Vue Longwell Green it's totally free all day.
30 percent of that cinemas attendance comes from this area. Those people with cars will be well hacked off if they cannot park in close proximity- I can assure you of that. It is quite different with Bath as most go in by train to that cinema anyway.
Now, if its a question of trying to get emergency vehicles down these confined roads, the county council obviously did not take the experience of a district council across into its unitary makeup as of 2010.
Special refuse vehicles were purchased with a short width and extended wheelbase for areas with confined roads especially Bradford in Avon . I see no reason that a fire engine cannot be purchased under those same technical specifications and considerations.
And finally these single and double yellow extensions have been done without proper consultation. A letter should have been put through each door of any affected property. It's not good enough to say that you see public notices in the library or in the Wiltshire Times. 80 percent of residents don't go to the library or even read the Wiltshire Times. It's little wonder that there is vitriol from the general public. Some residents who were able to park during the day cannot now park until after 6. What if those residents take their holidays when their kids do and their only option is to park outside their house because they do not have a drive or garage.
When this council realizes that it is a rural constituency where people need their cars to get to work and if they get cornered into using side streets further afield because their tight household budgets and expensive petrol and diesel are forcing them to make these choices them I might be more considerate of a council who should be more caring than penalising as what appears to be the case here.
I wasn't talking to you! Get. Over. Yourself. If you read any of my last post i made it clear I had nothing else to say to you. I was referring to all of the other people who've commented about paying for parking.
Stop trying to make this about the cinema. Stop trying to push your agenda. Stop making me repeat myself.
[quote][p][bold]AMVanquish007[/bold] wrote: Well Well ,so,18yrs ,you now cite the multi storey car park to get at somebody else!. It may well be free but in the 2 hr sections which comprise of half of this covenanted car park and given to the town, I might add in 1974, you will be done with a £50 fine if you overstay your welcome. As most performances, plus adverts and getting to find a place to park will mean a 3 hr duration for a family trying to park in a car to go to the cinema- it's going to be a nightmare. Plus the fact that the Premiere Inn will swallow 80 percent of the extra 111 car parking spaces daily and workers will accommodate the rest of the multi storey from 8am- 6pm- you can see how difficult it'll be for anybody to park on a holiday date. They will be looking for available side roads, the very ones which you say aren't near the cinema but quite clearly if you plot them on a map of Trowbridge - they are!!! I can cite several examples of new multiplexes which opened in the 90's with a painful lack of car parking spaces which inevitably led to the council and local radio being bombarded with irate cinemagoers. Something none of you who have lived in Trowbridge for years will ever have witnessed or experienced like I have. As for Bath - yes you do pay and its 24 hours unless you can find a single yellow after 630 but at Vue Longwell Green it's totally free all day. 30 percent of that cinemas attendance comes from this area. Those people with cars will be well hacked off if they cannot park in close proximity- I can assure you of that. It is quite different with Bath as most go in by train to that cinema anyway. Now, if its a question of trying to get emergency vehicles down these confined roads, the county council obviously did not take the experience of a district council across into its unitary makeup as of 2010. Special refuse vehicles were purchased with a short width and extended wheelbase for areas with confined roads especially Bradford in Avon . I see no reason that a fire engine cannot be purchased under those same technical specifications and considerations. And finally these single and double yellow extensions have been done without proper consultation. A letter should have been put through each door of any affected property. It's not good enough to say that you see public notices in the library or in the Wiltshire Times. 80 percent of residents don't go to the library or even read the Wiltshire Times. It's little wonder that there is vitriol from the general public. Some residents who were able to park during the day cannot now park until after 6. What if those residents take their holidays when their kids do and their only option is to park outside their house because they do not have a drive or garage. When this council realizes that it is a rural constituency where people need their cars to get to work and if they get cornered into using side streets further afield because their tight household budgets and expensive petrol and diesel are forcing them to make these choices them I might be more considerate of a council who should be more caring than penalising as what appears to be the case here.[/p][/quote]I wasn't talking to you! Get. Over. Yourself. If you read any of my last post i made it clear I had nothing else to say to you. I was referring to all of the other people who've commented about paying for parking. Stop trying to make this about the cinema. Stop trying to push your agenda. Stop making me repeat myself. 18Years

8:57pm Thu 4 Apr 13

18Years says...

AMVanquish007 wrote:
Well Well ,so,18yrs ,you now cite the multi storey car park to get at somebody else!. It may well be free but in the 2 hr sections which comprise of half of this covenanted car park and given to the town, I might add in 1974, you will be done with a £50 fine if you overstay your welcome. As most performances, plus adverts and getting to find a place to park will mean a 3 hr duration for a family trying to park in a car to go to the cinema- it's going to be a nightmare. Plus the fact that the Premiere Inn will swallow 80 percent of the extra 111 car parking spaces daily and workers will accommodate the rest of the multi storey from 8am- 6pm- you can see how difficult it'll be for anybody to park on a holiday date. They will be looking for available side roads, the very ones which you say aren't near the cinema but quite clearly if you plot them on a map of Trowbridge - they are!!!
I can cite several examples of new multiplexes which opened in the 90's with a painful lack of car parking spaces which inevitably led to the council and local radio being bombarded with irate cinemagoers. Something none of you who have lived in Trowbridge for years will ever have witnessed or experienced like I have.
As for Bath - yes you do pay and its 24 hours unless you can find a single yellow after 630 but at Vue Longwell Green it's totally free all day.
30 percent of that cinemas attendance comes from this area. Those people with cars will be well hacked off if they cannot park in close proximity- I can assure you of that. It is quite different with Bath as most go in by train to that cinema anyway.
Now, if its a question of trying to get emergency vehicles down these confined roads, the county council obviously did not take the experience of a district council across into its unitary makeup as of 2010.
Special refuse vehicles were purchased with a short width and extended wheelbase for areas with confined roads especially Bradford in Avon . I see no reason that a fire engine cannot be purchased under those same technical specifications and considerations.
And finally these single and double yellow extensions have been done without proper consultation. A letter should have been put through each door of any affected property. It's not good enough to say that you see public notices in the library or in the Wiltshire Times. 80 percent of residents don't go to the library or even read the Wiltshire Times. It's little wonder that there is vitriol from the general public. Some residents who were able to park during the day cannot now park until after 6. What if those residents take their holidays when their kids do and their only option is to park outside their house because they do not have a drive or garage.
When this council realizes that it is a rural constituency where people need their cars to get to work and if they get cornered into using side streets further afield because their tight household budgets and expensive petrol and diesel are forcing them to make these choices them I might be more considerate of a council who should be more caring than penalising as what appears to be the case here.
Oh, and I only read the first three lines of your post as you repeat yourself so much I'm sure I'll have had the misfortune of reading exactly what you've said before. It's only five to nine, I'm not ready for bed yet. Now like I said, I have nothing else to say so stop being a big baby and let us discuss the issue at hand - double yellows, NOT SSP/Innox Riverside/AMVS boring, repetitive opinions.
[quote][p][bold]AMVanquish007[/bold] wrote: Well Well ,so,18yrs ,you now cite the multi storey car park to get at somebody else!. It may well be free but in the 2 hr sections which comprise of half of this covenanted car park and given to the town, I might add in 1974, you will be done with a £50 fine if you overstay your welcome. As most performances, plus adverts and getting to find a place to park will mean a 3 hr duration for a family trying to park in a car to go to the cinema- it's going to be a nightmare. Plus the fact that the Premiere Inn will swallow 80 percent of the extra 111 car parking spaces daily and workers will accommodate the rest of the multi storey from 8am- 6pm- you can see how difficult it'll be for anybody to park on a holiday date. They will be looking for available side roads, the very ones which you say aren't near the cinema but quite clearly if you plot them on a map of Trowbridge - they are!!! I can cite several examples of new multiplexes which opened in the 90's with a painful lack of car parking spaces which inevitably led to the council and local radio being bombarded with irate cinemagoers. Something none of you who have lived in Trowbridge for years will ever have witnessed or experienced like I have. As for Bath - yes you do pay and its 24 hours unless you can find a single yellow after 630 but at Vue Longwell Green it's totally free all day. 30 percent of that cinemas attendance comes from this area. Those people with cars will be well hacked off if they cannot park in close proximity- I can assure you of that. It is quite different with Bath as most go in by train to that cinema anyway. Now, if its a question of trying to get emergency vehicles down these confined roads, the county council obviously did not take the experience of a district council across into its unitary makeup as of 2010. Special refuse vehicles were purchased with a short width and extended wheelbase for areas with confined roads especially Bradford in Avon . I see no reason that a fire engine cannot be purchased under those same technical specifications and considerations. And finally these single and double yellow extensions have been done without proper consultation. A letter should have been put through each door of any affected property. It's not good enough to say that you see public notices in the library or in the Wiltshire Times. 80 percent of residents don't go to the library or even read the Wiltshire Times. It's little wonder that there is vitriol from the general public. Some residents who were able to park during the day cannot now park until after 6. What if those residents take their holidays when their kids do and their only option is to park outside their house because they do not have a drive or garage. When this council realizes that it is a rural constituency where people need their cars to get to work and if they get cornered into using side streets further afield because their tight household budgets and expensive petrol and diesel are forcing them to make these choices them I might be more considerate of a council who should be more caring than penalising as what appears to be the case here.[/p][/quote]Oh, and I only read the first three lines of your post as you repeat yourself so much I'm sure I'll have had the misfortune of reading exactly what you've said before. It's only five to nine, I'm not ready for bed yet. Now like I said, I have nothing else to say so stop being a big baby and let us discuss the issue at hand - double yellows, NOT SSP/Innox Riverside/AMVS boring, repetitive opinions. 18Years

9:03pm Thu 4 Apr 13

AMVanquish007 says...

You still don't get it do you 18yrs!!!!!
This could be an insidious move towards permit parking for the 5 towns in West Wiltshire and especially Trowbridge.
Bath has already got it and because local government has been given free reign to look at ways to raise revenue by way of car parking this is the next step.
I think out of the box , which is why the viability of the cinema at SSP is going to be important. These double and single yellow extensions are but a stepping stone to the next item on a councils agenda which after May 2 we might well see.
Seriously is that something you have thought of ???- permit parking!!!
I suggest you scrutinise every candidates manifesto and read between the lines to see if this is the case.
Because if they aren't going to listen to you now , they certainly won't listen to you , me or anybody after May 2.
You still don't get it do you 18yrs!!!!! This could be an insidious move towards permit parking for the 5 towns in West Wiltshire and especially Trowbridge. Bath has already got it and because local government has been given free reign to look at ways to raise revenue by way of car parking this is the next step. I think out of the box , which is why the viability of the cinema at SSP is going to be important. These double and single yellow extensions are but a stepping stone to the next item on a councils agenda which after May 2 we might well see. Seriously is that something you have thought of ???- permit parking!!! I suggest you scrutinise every candidates manifesto and read between the lines to see if this is the case. Because if they aren't going to listen to you now , they certainly won't listen to you , me or anybody after May 2. AMVanquish007

10:47pm Thu 4 Apr 13

whatsthestory says...

AMVanquish007 - Stop hijacking the discussion to promote your own agenda. You really are shining example of everything that is wrong with these types of forums. Like your username suggests you clearly are a dreamer. Your posts are a mix of total nonsense and utter utter drivel. Worst of all you are totally blinded by your own misguided opinions. You really are the worst kind of know-it all who obviously has far too much time on their hands. Mr Baxter - You need to sit down and have serious word with yourself. 'How many times do continually repeat yourself in every one of your pointless posts?, how many time have we heard "I've lived in Trowbridge in all my life and worked for 20 years in the cinema industry" blah blah blah? We don't care, the good people of Trowbridge are bored with you. Please do us all a favour and go live somewhere else!
AMVanquish007 - Stop hijacking the discussion to promote your own agenda. You really are shining example of everything that is wrong with these types of forums. Like your username suggests you clearly are a dreamer. Your posts are a mix of total nonsense and utter utter drivel. Worst of all you are totally blinded by your own misguided opinions. You really are the worst kind of know-it all who obviously has far too much time on their hands. Mr Baxter - You need to sit down and have serious word with yourself. 'How many times do continually repeat yourself in every one of your pointless posts?, how many time have we heard "I've lived in Trowbridge in all my life and worked for 20 years in the cinema industry" blah blah blah? We don't care, the good people of Trowbridge are bored with you. Please do us all a favour and go live somewhere else! whatsthestory

12:35am Fri 5 Apr 13

Mrs Donnyfly says...

sirroms wrote:
@Blanche

Applauded???

They need to be sacked!
The CONcil should provide free parking in Trow Vegas town centre to breathe some life into it instead of rinsing the already over taxed hard working people of this town! Mind you they probably all took backhanders from the BIG stores to raise town centre parking to encourage people to the out of town stores where there is free parking!
Its not rocket science!!!!
Is there any such thing as free parking? Considering we're talking about prime pieces of real estate it's to be expected that whoever owns them will want a return on them. So I'm guessing either those who actually use the car parks pay or everyone pays through council tax.
[quote][p][bold]sirroms[/bold] wrote: @Blanche Applauded??? They need to be sacked! The CONcil should provide free parking in Trow Vegas town centre to breathe some life into it instead of rinsing the already over taxed hard working people of this town! Mind you they probably all took backhanders from the BIG stores to raise town centre parking to encourage people to the out of town stores where there is free parking! Its not rocket science!!!![/p][/quote]Is there any such thing as free parking? Considering we're talking about prime pieces of real estate it's to be expected that whoever owns them will want a return on them. So I'm guessing either those who actually use the car parks pay or everyone pays through council tax. Mrs Donnyfly

1:45am Fri 5 Apr 13

AMVanquish007 says...

Actually whatsthestorey-you are 100% wrong.We will see who is misguided very shortly.
Its funny, i dont see your contribution on any of the posts on this blog. And yet this article is relevant to me because i live on one of these roads that has a mix of these single and double yellows,is close to town and will be affected by future developments so i think i have every right to contribute to this blog.
I also talk sense not non-sense because of experience-something which you and others cannot seem to quite get your heads around.
I also tend to find that when people get personal and resort to scathing comments, its usually because they havent anything better to say or they cannot contribute anything valid because they just dont know.
Actually whatsthestorey-you are 100% wrong.We will see who is misguided very shortly. Its funny, i dont see your contribution on any of the posts on this blog. And yet this article is relevant to me because i live on one of these roads that has a mix of these single and double yellows,is close to town and will be affected by future developments so i think i have every right to contribute to this blog. I also talk sense not non-sense because of experience-something which you and others cannot seem to quite get your heads around. I also tend to find that when people get personal and resort to scathing comments, its usually because they havent anything better to say or they cannot contribute anything valid because they just dont know. AMVanquish007

6:50am Fri 5 Apr 13

Blanche Terraine says...

Perhaps the Council will sell the car parks to developers - they did so in Chippenham, opposite the 'Little George'. If nobody uses the car parks, why not sell the land? People say they don't use the council car parks because of the high cost - would they prefer that the Council Taxpayers, many of whom don't drive, or can't afford, cars, paid for the car parks? Why should hard-pressed taxpayers meet the costs of motorists looking for somewhere to park for nothing?
Perhaps the Council will sell the car parks to developers - they did so in Chippenham, opposite the 'Little George'. If nobody uses the car parks, why not sell the land? People say they don't use the council car parks because of the high cost - would they prefer that the Council Taxpayers, many of whom don't drive, or can't afford, cars, paid for the car parks? Why should hard-pressed taxpayers meet the costs of motorists looking for somewhere to park for nothing? Blanche Terraine

9:19am Fri 5 Apr 13

veryfatmanonabicycle says...

Wish they's put them in our road, which is narrow enough that people either have to park illegally- ie with wheels on the pavement, or force one to drive on the pavement to go round. Who's doing this, and how can I get in contact with them?
Wish they's put them in our road, which is narrow enough that people either have to park illegally- ie with wheels on the pavement, or force one to drive on the pavement to go round. Who's doing this, and how can I get in contact with them? veryfatmanonabicycle

9:34am Fri 5 Apr 13

AMVanquish007 says...

Blanche Terraine- Firstly,the multi storey was under offer to Legal and General but they didnt want it and quite frankly it is appalling that it was even offered because it was given to the town under a 99year covenant to allow the town to have free car parking.
Secondly, dont mind paying for a car park if its reasonably priced but a few years back the cost trebled in West wiltshire and look what happened-empty car parks for the majority of the time. Most people believe the cost of the increase was due to the cost of paying for the extra traffic wardens that were taken on some years ago that were never needed in the first place
And finally thats rather a sweeping statement to say many council taxpayers dont drive'. It is wholly inaccurate.
In the last census of 2011-on average 2 in 3 households in this area had a car or had occupants that had the ability to drive by either car or motorcycle.And thats not just council tax payers but people in rented accommodation.
Blanche Terraine- Firstly,the multi storey was under offer to Legal and General but they didnt want it and quite frankly it is appalling that it was even offered because it was given to the town under a 99year covenant to allow the town to have free car parking. Secondly, dont mind paying for a car park if its reasonably priced but a few years back the cost trebled in West wiltshire and look what happened-empty car parks for the majority of the time. Most people believe the cost of the increase was due to the cost of paying for the extra traffic wardens that were taken on some years ago that were never needed in the first place And finally thats rather a sweeping statement to say many council taxpayers dont drive'. It is wholly inaccurate. In the last census of 2011-on average 2 in 3 households in this area had a car or had occupants that had the ability to drive by either car or motorcycle.And thats not just council tax payers but people in rented accommodation. AMVanquish007

9:56am Fri 5 Apr 13

AMVanquish007 says...

For many years now many local authorities, especially those in London ,which have many restricted roads have got around the problem by using half the pavement and half the road and white-lined the situation.
There is still enough access on the pavement for pedestrians and wheelchair users (and yes i do understand it is down to the width of the pavement,and whether both sides of the road do have a pavement to split in many circumstances and safety considerations).
But instead of increasing singles and double yellows on both sides of a residential road why cant this authority look at adopting this policy like the majority of other councils have done around the country?.
For many years now many local authorities, especially those in London ,which have many restricted roads have got around the problem by using half the pavement and half the road and white-lined the situation. There is still enough access on the pavement for pedestrians and wheelchair users (and yes i do understand it is down to the width of the pavement,and whether both sides of the road do have a pavement to split in many circumstances and safety considerations). But instead of increasing singles and double yellows on both sides of a residential road why cant this authority look at adopting this policy like the majority of other councils have done around the country?. AMVanquish007

10:04am Fri 5 Apr 13

18Years says...

veryfatmanonabicycle wrote:
Wish they's put them in our road, which is narrow enough that people either have to park illegally- ie with wheels on the pavement, or force one to drive on the pavement to go round. Who's doing this, and how can I get in contact with them?
Actually agree with you on this...even though everyone on my road has driveways where you can fit two cars people keep parking on both sides of the road....there is no way a fire engine would fit down it. Shows there wasn't much thought into where some of these lines were placed as there's many in places that didn't need them, which are now making it difficult for residents to park, and none in places that would actually benefit from them!
[quote][p][bold]veryfatmanonabicycle[/bold] wrote: Wish they's put them in our road, which is narrow enough that people either have to park illegally- ie with wheels on the pavement, or force one to drive on the pavement to go round. Who's doing this, and how can I get in contact with them?[/p][/quote]Actually agree with you on this...even though everyone on my road has driveways where you can fit two cars people keep parking on both sides of the road....there is no way a fire engine would fit down it. Shows there wasn't much thought into where some of these lines were placed as there's many in places that didn't need them, which are now making it difficult for residents to park, and none in places that would actually benefit from them! 18Years

12:13pm Sun 7 Apr 13

notscot says...

Blanche Terraine wrote:
Perhaps the Council will sell the car parks to developers - they did so in Chippenham, opposite the 'Little George'. If nobody uses the car parks, why not sell the land? People say they don't use the council car parks because of the high cost - would they prefer that the Council Taxpayers, many of whom don't drive, or can't afford, cars, paid for the car parks? Why should hard-pressed taxpayers meet the costs of motorists looking for somewhere to park for nothing?
That particular car park was free and ALWAYS full. So it wasn't a case of selling off land that wasn't being used.
And as for the cost of parking - it isn't set at a level simply to maintain the car parks. It's set to make a profit - and the numpties that set the charges have seen a drop, rather than an increase, in revenue. Which is why there are so many grumbles about people parking their vehicles in urban housing estates.
While it isn't illegal - it'll continue.
There may be a yellow-line crew in YOUR area, soon! Nothing to do with attempting to force people into expensive car parks, surely?
[quote][p][bold]Blanche Terraine[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the Council will sell the car parks to developers - they did so in Chippenham, opposite the 'Little George'. If nobody uses the car parks, why not sell the land? People say they don't use the council car parks because of the high cost - would they prefer that the Council Taxpayers, many of whom don't drive, or can't afford, cars, paid for the car parks? Why should hard-pressed taxpayers meet the costs of motorists looking for somewhere to park for nothing?[/p][/quote]That particular car park was free and ALWAYS full. So it wasn't a case of selling off land that wasn't being used. And as for the cost of parking - it isn't set at a level simply to maintain the car parks. It's set to make a profit - and the numpties that set the charges have seen a drop, rather than an increase, in revenue. Which is why there are so many grumbles about people parking their vehicles in urban housing estates. While it isn't illegal - it'll continue. There may be a yellow-line crew in YOUR area, soon! Nothing to do with attempting to force people into expensive car parks, surely? notscot

7:18am Mon 8 Apr 13

Highways68 says...

18Years wrote:
veryfatmanonabicycle wrote: Wish they's put them in our road, which is narrow enough that people either have to park illegally- ie with wheels on the pavement, or force one to drive on the pavement to go round. Who's doing this, and how can I get in contact with them?
Actually agree with you on this...even though everyone on my road has driveways where you can fit two cars people keep parking on both sides of the road....there is no way a fire engine would fit down it. Shows there wasn't much thought into where some of these lines were placed as there's many in places that didn't need them, which are now making it difficult for residents to park, and none in places that would actually benefit from them!
Would you have ever thought of picking up the phone, ringing the Town Council and reporting the problem?
[quote][p][bold]18Years[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]veryfatmanonabicycle[/bold] wrote: Wish they's put them in our road, which is narrow enough that people either have to park illegally- ie with wheels on the pavement, or force one to drive on the pavement to go round. Who's doing this, and how can I get in contact with them?[/p][/quote]Actually agree with you on this...even though everyone on my road has driveways where you can fit two cars people keep parking on both sides of the road....there is no way a fire engine would fit down it. Shows there wasn't much thought into where some of these lines were placed as there's many in places that didn't need them, which are now making it difficult for residents to park, and none in places that would actually benefit from them![/p][/quote]Would you have ever thought of picking up the phone, ringing the Town Council and reporting the problem? Highways68

1:08pm Tue 9 Apr 13

18Years says...

Highways68 wrote:
18Years wrote:
veryfatmanonabicycle wrote: Wish they's put them in our road, which is narrow enough that people either have to park illegally- ie with wheels on the pavement, or force one to drive on the pavement to go round. Who's doing this, and how can I get in contact with them?
Actually agree with you on this...even though everyone on my road has driveways where you can fit two cars people keep parking on both sides of the road....there is no way a fire engine would fit down it. Shows there wasn't much thought into where some of these lines were placed as there's many in places that didn't need them, which are now making it difficult for residents to park, and none in places that would actually benefit from them!
Would you have ever thought of picking up the phone, ringing the Town Council and reporting the problem?
Why would you assume that I haven't? Because the council is so fantastic at dealing promptly with public issues? Oh, wait....
[quote][p][bold]Highways68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]18Years[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]veryfatmanonabicycle[/bold] wrote: Wish they's put them in our road, which is narrow enough that people either have to park illegally- ie with wheels on the pavement, or force one to drive on the pavement to go round. Who's doing this, and how can I get in contact with them?[/p][/quote]Actually agree with you on this...even though everyone on my road has driveways where you can fit two cars people keep parking on both sides of the road....there is no way a fire engine would fit down it. Shows there wasn't much thought into where some of these lines were placed as there's many in places that didn't need them, which are now making it difficult for residents to park, and none in places that would actually benefit from them![/p][/quote]Would you have ever thought of picking up the phone, ringing the Town Council and reporting the problem?[/p][/quote]Why would you assume that I haven't? Because the council is so fantastic at dealing promptly with public issues? Oh, wait.... 18Years

10:54am Wed 10 Apr 13

Highways68 says...

18Years wrote:
Highways68 wrote:
18Years wrote:
veryfatmanonabicycle wrote: Wish they's put them in our road, which is narrow enough that people either have to park illegally- ie with wheels on the pavement, or force one to drive on the pavement to go round. Who's doing this, and how can I get in contact with them?
Actually agree with you on this...even though everyone on my road has driveways where you can fit two cars people keep parking on both sides of the road....there is no way a fire engine would fit down it. Shows there wasn't much thought into where some of these lines were placed as there's many in places that didn't need them, which are now making it difficult for residents to park, and none in places that would actually benefit from them!
Would you have ever thought of picking up the phone, ringing the Town Council and reporting the problem?
Why would you assume that I haven't? Because the council is so fantastic at dealing promptly with public issues? Oh, wait....
Well did you or didn't you? You could raise and Area Board issue, obtain the form for requsting restrictions from the Town Council - both methods will have audit trails to ensure requests are followed up.
[quote][p][bold]18Years[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Highways68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]18Years[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]veryfatmanonabicycle[/bold] wrote: Wish they's put them in our road, which is narrow enough that people either have to park illegally- ie with wheels on the pavement, or force one to drive on the pavement to go round. Who's doing this, and how can I get in contact with them?[/p][/quote]Actually agree with you on this...even though everyone on my road has driveways where you can fit two cars people keep parking on both sides of the road....there is no way a fire engine would fit down it. Shows there wasn't much thought into where some of these lines were placed as there's many in places that didn't need them, which are now making it difficult for residents to park, and none in places that would actually benefit from them![/p][/quote]Would you have ever thought of picking up the phone, ringing the Town Council and reporting the problem?[/p][/quote]Why would you assume that I haven't? Because the council is so fantastic at dealing promptly with public issues? Oh, wait....[/p][/quote]Well did you or didn't you? You could raise and Area Board issue, obtain the form for requsting restrictions from the Town Council - both methods will have audit trails to ensure requests are followed up. Highways68

9:01pm Sat 13 Apr 13

Darned_peasants says...

The fact the old Hag lives in Hilperton really makes me wonder why she doesnt walk. Its about 1.5 miles at most? I think its about time the lines were put in place, more often than not i'm unable to see if there are cars coming because selfish idiots park on Stancombe avenue.. I dont see why people are so begrudging over paying 20 p (asda)or bothering to park for free in the multistory.. Im sure the people of Stancombe avenue will prefer greater visibility and safer roads thanks to these lines !
The fact the old Hag lives in Hilperton really makes me wonder why she doesnt walk. Its about 1.5 miles at most? I think its about time the lines were put in place, more often than not i'm unable to see if there are cars coming because selfish idiots park on Stancombe avenue.. I dont see why people are so begrudging over paying 20 p (asda)or bothering to park for free in the multistory.. Im sure the people of Stancombe avenue will prefer greater visibility and safer roads thanks to these lines ! Darned_peasants

9:08pm Sat 13 Apr 13

Darned_peasants says...

beetawix wrote:
Wiltshire Council said extra yellow lines in Trowbridge, Were to allow better access for emergency vehicles.

what nonsense. i will support council in many things but this is utter hogwash.
dust carts get through these streets ok,
have the thick council not noticed, or does extracting money excite them too much?
while most council services are cut, i wonder how many traffic wardens and fixed penalty staff are being recruited.
Seriously, whats 20p to pay for an hours parking?!
[quote][p][bold]beetawix[/bold] wrote: Wiltshire Council said extra yellow lines in Trowbridge, Were to allow better access for emergency vehicles. what nonsense. i will support council in many things but this is utter hogwash. dust carts get through these streets ok, have the thick council not noticed, or does extracting money excite them too much? while most council services are cut, i wonder how many traffic wardens and fixed penalty staff are being recruited.[/p][/quote]Seriously, whats 20p to pay for an hours parking?! Darned_peasants

9:08pm Sat 13 Apr 13

Darned_peasants says...

If you can afford to drive, you can afford to park !
If you can afford to drive, you can afford to park ! Darned_peasants

10:41pm Mon 22 Apr 13

botelr says...

as i live in one of the roads affected, i looked further into this, the council are now saying that they are NOT going to be putting yellow lines on the streets named above, this is no issue of paying a parking price, but simple the idea that this would leave my self and 100's of others with no where to park. I guess this is why they say they have revised the plan, but not updated the website< but this does not help the lady above or the other residents of that street
as i live in one of the roads affected, i looked further into this, the council are now saying that they are NOT going to be putting yellow lines on the streets named above, this is no issue of paying a parking price, but simple the idea that this would leave my self and 100's of others with no where to park. I guess this is why they say they have revised the plan, but not updated the website< but this does not help the lady above or the other residents of that street botelr

5:04pm Tue 23 Apr 13

blackstone says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
&quot;...dust carts get through these streets ok..."

Isn't the average fire engine about 2ft wider than the average bin lorry?
NO
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: "...dust carts get through these streets ok..." Isn't the average fire engine about 2ft wider than the average bin lorry?[/p][/quote]NO blackstone

10:09pm Wed 24 Apr 13

kalie@kp-photo.co.uk says...

So how are we meant to park, on gloucester road and avenue road we do not have driveways. I am a photographer and need to unload my equipment everyday. So we have to park miles away from our own houses? this is ridiculous. We have had emergancy services down here loads of times and have had no trouble before, even with school children coming out at 3pm!!
Never had any trouble before, I have lived here all my life, my parents over 20 years, its the most stupid thing i have heard. It's bad enough parking as it is!!!
So how are we meant to park, on gloucester road and avenue road we do not have driveways. I am a photographer and need to unload my equipment everyday. So we have to park miles away from our own houses? this is ridiculous. We have had emergancy services down here loads of times and have had no trouble before, even with school children coming out at 3pm!! Never had any trouble before, I have lived here all my life, my parents over 20 years, its the most stupid thing i have heard. It's bad enough parking as it is!!! kalie@kp-photo.co.uk

10:18pm Wed 24 Apr 13

kalie@kp-photo.co.uk says...

blindingly obvious wrote:
Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
blindingly obvious wrote:
@Mrs Donnyfly.........the death of many towns high streets has been through the removal of free two hour parking and restrictions in residential areas...the point You are missing is the footfall of people visiting Trowbridge not your petty comments.
The point YOU are trying to introduce has nothing to do with what the article is about. How may I ask does painting yellow lines in say, St John's Crescent or Bond St or Studley Rise affect what goes on in the town centre? How can the yellow lines in these roads, and the majority of others listed, be an attempt by the council to &quot;force" people to use pay and display car parks as you spuriously suggest?
I park in these places and walk to do my town business....so the point that these yellow lines do have something to do with my point is relevant. When you visit a new place on holiday do you always go for the most expensive car park(lucky you) I will park further out and enjoy the walk in.
It does have a point actually, do you live here...no, I bet you have a lovely driveway mrs donnyfly, but me no, we have a road, which is now to be double yellow lined, its not just about the town, its about where i LIVE.
[quote][p][bold]blindingly obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blindingly obvious[/bold] wrote: @Mrs Donnyfly.........the death of many towns high streets has been through the removal of free two hour parking and restrictions in residential areas...the point You are missing is the footfall of people visiting Trowbridge not your petty comments.[/p][/quote]The point YOU are trying to introduce has nothing to do with what the article is about. How may I ask does painting yellow lines in say, St John's Crescent or Bond St or Studley Rise affect what goes on in the town centre? How can the yellow lines in these roads, and the majority of others listed, be an attempt by the council to "force" people to use pay and display car parks as you spuriously suggest?[/p][/quote]I park in these places and walk to do my town business....so the point that these yellow lines do have something to do with my point is relevant. When you visit a new place on holiday do you always go for the most expensive car park(lucky you) I will park further out and enjoy the walk in.[/p][/quote]It does have a point actually, do you live here...no, I bet you have a lovely driveway mrs donnyfly, but me no, we have a road, which is now to be double yellow lined, its not just about the town, its about where i LIVE. kalie@kp-photo.co.uk

10:29pm Wed 24 Apr 13

bobharo says...

I have lived on Gloucester Rd for 21 years, I haven't got a drive like all of the fat cats on the council.

Parking is hard and is always getting harder as the amount of cars have increased three fold in recent years.

I want to know one thing, where is the notification of these changes to residents? The council seemed to have forgotten us.

And where do I park now? on the roof?

I came across this on Facebook and couldn't believe it. And also where is the link on the Wiltshire Council website?

Is it the end of the world? As this feels really weird. Hard working people, should not and will not stand for this.....
I have lived on Gloucester Rd for 21 years, I haven't got a drive like all of the fat cats on the council. Parking is hard and is always getting harder as the amount of cars have increased three fold in recent years. I want to know one thing, where is the notification of these changes to residents? The council seemed to have forgotten us. And where do I park now? on the roof? I came across this on Facebook and couldn't believe it. And also where is the link on the Wiltshire Council website? Is it the end of the world? As this feels really weird. Hard working people, should not and will not stand for this..... bobharo

10:36pm Wed 24 Apr 13

bobharo says...

Oh yes, my car caught fire outside my house on Gloucester Rd. Guess what? the fire engine got there in 5 minutes, coming down the full length of the road.

Can the Council explain the reason for the yellow lines with that one?

Also where is a car park for me to park in? um.....about 3 miles away, cheers for that dick'eds.
Oh yes, my car caught fire outside my house on Gloucester Rd. Guess what? the fire engine got there in 5 minutes, coming down the full length of the road. Can the Council explain the reason for the yellow lines with that one? Also where is a car park for me to park in? um.....about 3 miles away, cheers for that dick'eds. bobharo

10:41pm Wed 24 Apr 13

bobharo says...

AMVanquish007 wrote:
It is quite frankly astounding what is going on with this council . Clearly there is no consideration for residents,business and potential business for the future and its impact. In today's Wiltshire Times we see these officers and councillors who have decided in their infinite wisdom to plaster Trowbridge with yet more extended single and double yellow lines restrictions.Quite a few of these roads are within a mile radius of the new cinema at St Stephens Place. There is absolutely no chance of anybody coming a distance in a car to go to the cinema to park in the afternoons anywhere in this town. it appears the councils idea is to channel car drivers into the car parks to pay to park and go to the cinema but this is flawed and beyond belief. Cinemagoers expect car parking to be free and in close proximity to the cinema . Currently,even without the cinema open, the Trowbridge car parks will be full of workers cars and shoppers on a holiday date denying cinema patrons the opportunity to park in the afternoons anywhere in this town.Side roads would have eased the congestion but no!!! lets restrict this potential nuisance and get at the residents at the same time so as to justify the salaries of the traffic wardens in Trowbridge which to be honest were never needed in the first place.
If ever there was a more anal policy of wrecking the viability of a new multiplex cinema during the day - this is it. A modern 1300 seater multiplex is going to get 50% of its business from afternoon holiday dates.Families will be turning up in cars from within a 20 mile radius to try to get to this cinema and what will they find between the hours of 9am to 6pm? Car Parks already full with workers and shoppers - side streets with yellow lines blocking any attempt to park,god forbid-and ultimately supermarket car parks will change to 2 hr maximum limits with ANPR Cameras.
As of October when the St Stephens Place is due to open, this town will go down in history as the town of the parking ticket and road rage.
.Despite any idea that the Peter Blacks site might be utilised as a future levelled car park (who for? Wiltshire council staff or for the cinema?) frankly, if I was Odeon i would be having serious concerns about my profitability at this late stage.
Yes,the council wants to regenerate and try to attract business and retail to come here, but once youve signed on the dotted line, it's a case of we will penalize you up to the hilt with high business rates and an idiotic policy on car parking. No wonder there are 36 empty retail units in Trowbridge. Nobody wants to come here.
The extra 111 spaces on St Stephens Place just isn't going to cut it either
A 1300 seat cinema
6 x100 place restaurants
An 80 bedroomed hotel that gets a 90% occupancy.
Please!!!!!!! On popular holiday dates with popular films this could mean 300 cars coming and leaving every 3 hours for the cinema alone and not any consideration for families wanting to stay for a meal after or before the cinema performance. The result- congestion on a scale on the county way roundabout they never thought was possible and block backs on all arteries into the centre of Trowbridge.
This council clearly have not one clue about the number of cars coming from outside of Trowbridge that will be attracted to this development.
So here is a stark message to council officers and councillors - get a reality check- or else see this new cinema close its doors sooner than the old Europa cinema(1974-82) did because it will have difficulties surviving on the evening business alone and it most certainly will not survive as a town cinema only. This is a multiplex serving a huge catchment - I suggest you go back to the drawing board and undertake a major rethink on parking for Trowbridge beneficial to everybody and not just emergency vehicles ( which can be bought with differing chassis lengths and widths to accommodate restricted areas)
Hopefully after May 2 there will be a new council made up of enlightened independent and business orientated councillors who will have the intelligence to know how to create jobs and listen to residents for once.
And hopefully Innox Riverside, still with its Cineworld cinema under appeal, with its Morrisons, restaurants and 550 free car parking spaces with rail link, will progress forward at great speed with no further obstructions from this council. It won't be a moment too soon considering we might be entering another double/treble dip recession.
I really, really wanted a Cinema, but now I don't.

So what you are saying is that it has well and truly gone 'pear shaped'?
[quote][p][bold]AMVanquish007[/bold] wrote: It is quite frankly astounding what is going on with this council . Clearly there is no consideration for residents,business and potential business for the future and its impact. In today's Wiltshire Times we see these officers and councillors who have decided in their infinite wisdom to plaster Trowbridge with yet more extended single and double yellow lines restrictions.Quite a few of these roads are within a mile radius of the new cinema at St Stephens Place. There is absolutely no chance of anybody coming a distance in a car to go to the cinema to park in the afternoons anywhere in this town. it appears the councils idea is to channel car drivers into the car parks to pay to park and go to the cinema but this is flawed and beyond belief. Cinemagoers expect car parking to be free and in close proximity to the cinema . Currently,even without the cinema open, the Trowbridge car parks will be full of workers cars and shoppers on a holiday date denying cinema patrons the opportunity to park in the afternoons anywhere in this town.Side roads would have eased the congestion but no!!! lets restrict this potential nuisance and get at the residents at the same time so as to justify the salaries of the traffic wardens in Trowbridge which to be honest were never needed in the first place. If ever there was a more anal policy of wrecking the viability of a new multiplex cinema during the day - this is it. A modern 1300 seater multiplex is going to get 50% of its business from afternoon holiday dates.Families will be turning up in cars from within a 20 mile radius to try to get to this cinema and what will they find between the hours of 9am to 6pm? Car Parks already full with workers and shoppers - side streets with yellow lines blocking any attempt to park,god forbid-and ultimately supermarket car parks will change to 2 hr maximum limits with ANPR Cameras. As of October when the St Stephens Place is due to open, this town will go down in history as the town of the parking ticket and road rage. .Despite any idea that the Peter Blacks site might be utilised as a future levelled car park (who for? Wiltshire council staff or for the cinema?) frankly, if I was Odeon i would be having serious concerns about my profitability at this late stage. Yes,the council wants to regenerate and try to attract business and retail to come here, but once youve signed on the dotted line, it's a case of we will penalize you up to the hilt with high business rates and an idiotic policy on car parking. No wonder there are 36 empty retail units in Trowbridge. Nobody wants to come here. The extra 111 spaces on St Stephens Place just isn't going to cut it either A 1300 seat cinema 6 x100 place restaurants An 80 bedroomed hotel that gets a 90% occupancy. Please!!!!!!! On popular holiday dates with popular films this could mean 300 cars coming and leaving every 3 hours for the cinema alone and not any consideration for families wanting to stay for a meal after or before the cinema performance. The result- congestion on a scale on the county way roundabout they never thought was possible and block backs on all arteries into the centre of Trowbridge. This council clearly have not one clue about the number of cars coming from outside of Trowbridge that will be attracted to this development. So here is a stark message to council officers and councillors - get a reality check- or else see this new cinema close its doors sooner than the old Europa cinema(1974-82) did because it will have difficulties surviving on the evening business alone and it most certainly will not survive as a town cinema only. This is a multiplex serving a huge catchment - I suggest you go back to the drawing board and undertake a major rethink on parking for Trowbridge beneficial to everybody and not just emergency vehicles ( which can be bought with differing chassis lengths and widths to accommodate restricted areas) Hopefully after May 2 there will be a new council made up of enlightened independent and business orientated councillors who will have the intelligence to know how to create jobs and listen to residents for once. And hopefully Innox Riverside, still with its Cineworld cinema under appeal, with its Morrisons, restaurants and 550 free car parking spaces with rail link, will progress forward at great speed with no further obstructions from this council. It won't be a moment too soon considering we might be entering another double/treble dip recession.[/p][/quote]I really, really wanted a Cinema, but now I don't. So what you are saying is that it has well and truly gone 'pear shaped'? bobharo

10:44pm Wed 24 Apr 13

bobharo says...

Mrs Donnyfly wrote:
blindingly obvious wrote:
@Mrs Donnyfly.........the death of many towns high streets has been through the removal of free two hour parking and restrictions in residential areas...the point You are missing is the footfall of people visiting Trowbridge not your petty comments.
The point YOU are trying to introduce has nothing to do with what the article is about. How may I ask does painting yellow lines in say, St John's Crescent or Bond St or Studley Rise affect what goes on in the town centre? How can the yellow lines in these roads, and the majority of others listed, be an attempt by the council to &quot;force" people to use pay and display car parks as you spuriously suggest?
Because they have nowhere to park, duhhhhhhh!

Grow yourself a brain.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs Donnyfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blindingly obvious[/bold] wrote: @Mrs Donnyfly.........the death of many towns high streets has been through the removal of free two hour parking and restrictions in residential areas...the point You are missing is the footfall of people visiting Trowbridge not your petty comments.[/p][/quote]The point YOU are trying to introduce has nothing to do with what the article is about. How may I ask does painting yellow lines in say, St John's Crescent or Bond St or Studley Rise affect what goes on in the town centre? How can the yellow lines in these roads, and the majority of others listed, be an attempt by the council to "force" people to use pay and display car parks as you spuriously suggest?[/p][/quote]Because they have nowhere to park, duhhhhhhh! Grow yourself a brain. bobharo

9:40am Thu 25 Apr 13

sirroms says...

A stiff wire brush and some elbow grease!

Direct action is needed as I dont see any councillors doing anything to assist!
A stiff wire brush and some elbow grease! Direct action is needed as I dont see any councillors doing anything to assist! sirroms

11:30am Thu 25 Apr 13

AMVanquish007 says...

Not pearshaped bobharo.In reality its trying to fit a quart into a pint pot.
The plain and simple fact is that the cinema was sited in the wrong place at St Stephens Place and should always have been at Innox Riverside with the ample and dedicated car parking of 550 spaces shared with Morrisons and the restaurants-
But more importantly it was right next to the railway station and visible to thousands of railusers, the majority of which would have come by rail from Warminster, Westbury, Frome, BOA to Bath and ultimately from Melksham to Chippenham (creating an improved rail service as a knock on effect)
Meaning ----- less cars hitting Trowbridge and not parking in side streets affecting residents already suffering from extra single and double yellow lines which is what this blog is all about.
My main gripe is the 13 weeks of afternoon holiday dates that the cinema operator at St Stephens Place will have to endure affecting profitability.
To rely on just the population of Trowbridge is not sustainable for a 1300 seat cinema.
It is going to be reliant on traffic within a 20 mile radius.
There are moves to maybe flatten the Peter Black site for extra car parking which would ease the burden for St Stephens Place but whilst this site is owned by an irish bank and in litigation with the recievers and insurers, i see no light at the end of the tunnel especially before October when the site is due to open.
I have nothing against the cinema operator at St Stephens-i wish them well despite the fact that financially they have suffered a few years of losses. Shortly they are to be put up for sale to the highest bidder.Whether it be a management buyout, another major uk operator buying them or an international bidder from america,the middle east or china, either way they are going to have their work cut out outside of the eveing business
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Not pearshaped bobharo.In reality its trying to fit a quart into a pint pot. The plain and simple fact is that the cinema was sited in the wrong place at St Stephens Place and should always have been at Innox Riverside with the ample and dedicated car parking of 550 spaces shared with Morrisons and the restaurants- But more importantly it was right next to the railway station and visible to thousands of railusers, the majority of which would have come by rail from Warminster, Westbury, Frome, BOA to Bath and ultimately from Melksham to Chippenham (creating an improved rail service as a knock on effect) Meaning ----- less cars hitting Trowbridge and not parking in side streets affecting residents already suffering from extra single and double yellow lines which is what this blog is all about. My main gripe is the 13 weeks of afternoon holiday dates that the cinema operator at St Stephens Place will have to endure affecting profitability. To rely on just the population of Trowbridge is not sustainable for a 1300 seat cinema. It is going to be reliant on traffic within a 20 mile radius. There are moves to maybe flatten the Peter Black site for extra car parking which would ease the burden for St Stephens Place but whilst this site is owned by an irish bank and in litigation with the recievers and insurers, i see no light at the end of the tunnel especially before October when the site is due to open. I have nothing against the cinema operator at St Stephens-i wish them well despite the fact that financially they have suffered a few years of losses. Shortly they are to be put up for sale to the highest bidder.Whether it be a management buyout, another major uk operator buying them or an international bidder from america,the middle east or china, either way they are going to have their work cut out outside of the eveing business . AMVanquish007

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