Chapmanslade residents in protest over wind turbine plan

Tim Page and other campaigners against the proposed wind turbines at Chapmanslade

Tim Page and other campaigners against the proposed wind turbines at Chapmanslade

First published in News by , Senior reporter for Trowbridge

Protesters turned out in force to show their opposition to a proposed single wind turbine at Thoulstone Farm in Chapmanslade, at a consultation event held by developers on Monday.

The wind turbine, which was put on display at a drop-in information event at St Phillip and St James’ Church, is being proposed by Seren Energy and will be 87 metres high with blades 53 metres in diameter.

Seren Energy says the scheme is being developed with the Welch family at Thoulstone Farm, with the family owning 80 per cent of the scheme and Seren Energy owning 20 per cent.

However, a group of residents have set up a group to oppose the turbine, which they believe will blight the views of, and from, Cley Hill, as well as causing noise disruption and danger to wildlife.

Tim Page, spokesperson for the Stop Thoulstone Farm Wind Turbine group, said: “The noise is a big problem. They are also not useful in terms of energy production and are not very CO2 friendly. We are not against renewable energy, but it needs to be in the right place.

“Cley Hill is an iconic setting and this wind turbine would spoil the views. Also if this was to go ahead there would be nothing stopping them from putting more up.”

Mr Page added that the opposition group has more than 200 registered supporters, including residents in the nearby parishes of Upton Scudamore and Corsley.

Chapmanslade resident Mary Medhurst said: “I haven’t come across anyone who is for this proposal.”

The wind turbine proposal could be the first to benefit since the planning inspector ordered Wiltshire Council to remove a planned minimum separation distance between housing and wind developments in its core strategy.

Director of Seren Energy Steve Hack said: “We were pleased with the turnout as our aim was to get lots of people to come along and find out more about the proposal, and that’s what happened.

“Lots of people were clear that they didn’t like it and if anything I’d say they were in the majority, but people who are clearly for something like this are less likely to come along to an event like this.”

He added that Seren has proposed to pay £15,000 as an initial community fund payment and £2,000 a year for the wind turbine’s operational life of 25 years to the local community or parish council support local initiatives.

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10:26am Wed 30 Apr 14

the optimist says...

"Tim Page, spokesperson for the Stop Thoulstone Farm Wind Turbine group, said: “The noise is a big problem. They are also not useful in terms of energy production and are not very CO2 friendly. We are not against renewable energy, but it needs to be in the right place".

Has Mr Page ever stood next to a wind turbine? I have and I was surprised how quiet they are?

Could Mr Page supply us with CO2 figures for wind turbine energy production in comparison to oil, gas or nuclear energy production?

I have no problem with how they look in the countryside when you consider all the other distractions we already have such as pylons, roads, buildings etc.

Dare I suggest you are a NIMBY?
"Tim Page, spokesperson for the Stop Thoulstone Farm Wind Turbine group, said: “The noise is a big problem. They are also not useful in terms of energy production and are not very CO2 friendly. We are not against renewable energy, but it needs to be in the right place". Has Mr Page ever stood next to a wind turbine? I have and I was surprised how quiet they are? Could Mr Page supply us with CO2 figures for wind turbine energy production in comparison to oil, gas or nuclear energy production? I have no problem with how they look in the countryside when you consider all the other distractions we already have such as pylons, roads, buildings etc. Dare I suggest you are a NIMBY? the optimist
  • Score: 31

10:48am Wed 30 Apr 14

New 2 Trow says...

Ahhhhh that old chestnut

"We are not against renewable energy, but it needs to be in the right place."

Without actually suggesting alternatives that would be in the right place.
Ahhhhh that old chestnut "We are not against renewable energy, but it needs to be in the right place." Without actually suggesting alternatives that would be in the right place. New 2 Trow
  • Score: 26

5:14pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Room101 says...

Same again, Tim Page said we are not against renewable energy, but it needs to be in the right place. Yes on somebody else's door step.
Same again, Tim Page said we are not against renewable energy, but it needs to be in the right place. Yes on somebody else's door step. Room101
  • Score: 21

6:36pm Wed 30 Apr 14

vox sanitatem says...

For Pete's sake, someone save us from these wretched nimbys.
If this ridiculous attitude had existed in the past we'd have no canals, no railways, no national grid, no motorways......in short we'd be left in the dark ages...literally!!
For Pete's sake, someone save us from these wretched nimbys. If this ridiculous attitude had existed in the past we'd have no canals, no railways, no national grid, no motorways......in short we'd be left in the dark ages...literally!! vox sanitatem
  • Score: 22

7:12pm Wed 30 Apr 14

frankie007 says...

Chapmanslade residents seem to have nothing better to do that protest. Look at all the fuss over the Sunrise festival, now wind farms.

Can someone not send them some televisions or some hookers to occupy their tiny minds?
Chapmanslade residents seem to have nothing better to do that protest. Look at all the fuss over the Sunrise festival, now wind farms. Can someone not send them some televisions or some hookers to occupy their tiny minds? frankie007
  • Score: 29

10:40pm Wed 30 Apr 14

vox sanitatem says...

Best thing to take their minds off it would be to put a few hundred houses right on their doorstep!!
Best thing to take their minds off it would be to put a few hundred houses right on their doorstep!! vox sanitatem
  • Score: 16

8:38pm Thu 1 May 14

WHall says...

Having lived through one of these carbon-copy anti-windfarm campaigns, I can only offer my deepest sympathies to the more honest and balanced members of the local community. Be prepared for a barrage of false stories which - even though they have been comprehensively disproven elsewhere - will be regurgitated as if they were true with the sole intent of misleading and frightening local residents. Be prepared for bullying and mob rule. Be prepared for neighbour to be set against neighbour, not by the turbines (which are harmless, practically noiseless, and of great benefit to the community) but by irresponsible and anti-social agitators who have found themselves a convenient band wagon. Be prepared for lots of shouting from people who haven't the foggiest idea about what wind turbines are but have been brainwashed by their neighbours into believing all sorts of ridiculous, unscientific things about them. Be prepared for extraordinary pressure to be exerted on local representatives in the form of floods of falsehoods, false claims, false stories, false "FACTS" made up by ignorant and selfish people. Be prepared for masses of hypocrisy and double standards. But also, if you're lucky, once all the nonsense is over, be prepared for the invigorating and exciting experience of seeing graceful turbines quietly turning and generating cheap electricity, with no harmful emissions, at a fraction of the cost of the alternatives, and with minimal environmental damage, which will attract visitors and new residents to the area (don't believe the hogwash about turbines affecting property prices - that only happens while the NIMBYs have their garish "NO" posters plastered everywhere: all the evidence suggests that the presence of a windfarm is actually pretty good for the local property market). So please, those of you who have a genuine care for democracy, the environment, energy bills and your children's futures - don't be deceived by the bullies and the liars. Windfarms are a good thing. And the majority of Brits support them.
Having lived through one of these carbon-copy anti-windfarm campaigns, I can only offer my deepest sympathies to the more honest and balanced members of the local community. Be prepared for a barrage of false stories which - even though they have been comprehensively disproven elsewhere - will be regurgitated as if they were true with the sole intent of misleading and frightening local residents. Be prepared for bullying and mob rule. Be prepared for neighbour to be set against neighbour, not by the turbines (which are harmless, practically noiseless, and of great benefit to the community) but by irresponsible and anti-social agitators who have found themselves a convenient band wagon. Be prepared for lots of shouting from people who haven't the foggiest idea about what wind turbines are but have been brainwashed by their neighbours into believing all sorts of ridiculous, unscientific things about them. Be prepared for extraordinary pressure to be exerted on local representatives in the form of floods of falsehoods, false claims, false stories, false "FACTS" made up by ignorant and selfish people. Be prepared for masses of hypocrisy and double standards. But also, if you're lucky, once all the nonsense is over, be prepared for the invigorating and exciting experience of seeing graceful turbines quietly turning and generating cheap electricity, with no harmful emissions, at a fraction of the cost of the alternatives, and with minimal environmental damage, which will attract visitors and new residents to the area (don't believe the hogwash about turbines affecting property prices - that only happens while the NIMBYs have their garish "NO" posters plastered everywhere: all the evidence suggests that the presence of a windfarm is actually pretty good for the local property market). So please, those of you who have a genuine care for democracy, the environment, energy bills and your children's futures - don't be deceived by the bullies and the liars. Windfarms are a good thing. And the majority of Brits support them. WHall
  • Score: 11

11:48pm Fri 2 May 14

save energy says...

NIMBY = Next It Might Be You.
Windfarms are a good thing BUT only for the owners/developers.

And then there’s the claims of the amount of ‘free energy’ !

As I write this, the UKs entire 5,441 wind turbine fleet is producing- just a pathetic … 4% of demand .
BUT still making loads of cash for developers (mainly foreign), & prices are set to rise yet again to pay for it all. (Ed Davey’s just announced another subsidy of £1.38 billion/yr, see- https://notalotofpeo
pleknowthat.wordpres
s.com/2014/04/23/the
-davey-tax/ - )

Fortunately 59% of our energy is being supplied by coal & gas, 23% by nuclear & 10% by the Dutch (Gas) & French (Nuclear) see- http://www.gridwatch
.templar.co.uk/ - .
Over the last 3 yrs wind has produced less than 5% of demand at a cost of £billions !!! we buy 5% of demand from the Dutch & French at 1/3rd of the cost of wind - see - http://www.ukpowerge
neration.info/site/m
onthly

Community fund payments (bribes) are a small proportion (usually 5%) of the profit.
They are not part of the planning process & they are not a binding agreement (many examples of a few payments & then stop).
Put simply;- You pay more on your bills, they give you 5% back, you say thanks, they trouser 95% = everybody happy!!! It’s a ‘Ponzi scam’ – Google it.

For info on the eye-watering amounts they receive, See- http://www.variablep
itch.co.uk/finance/ -
& yes the monthly totals ARE 100s of millions £££.
NIMBY = Next It Might Be You. Windfarms are a good thing BUT only for the owners/developers. And then there’s the claims of the amount of ‘free energy’ ! As I write this, the UKs entire 5,441 wind turbine fleet is producing- just a pathetic … 4% of demand . BUT still making loads of cash for developers (mainly foreign), & prices are set to rise yet again to pay for it all. (Ed Davey’s just announced another subsidy of £1.38 billion/yr, see- https://notalotofpeo pleknowthat.wordpres s.com/2014/04/23/the -davey-tax/ - ) Fortunately 59% of our energy is being supplied by coal & gas, 23% by nuclear & 10% by the Dutch (Gas) & French (Nuclear) see- http://www.gridwatch .templar.co.uk/ - . Over the last 3 yrs wind has produced less than 5% of demand at a cost of £billions !!! we buy 5% of demand from the Dutch & French at 1/3rd of the cost of wind - see - http://www.ukpowerge neration.info/site/m onthly Community fund payments (bribes) are a small proportion (usually 5%) of the profit. They are not part of the planning process & they are not a binding agreement (many examples of a few payments & then stop). Put simply;- You pay more on your bills, they give you 5% back, you say thanks, they trouser 95% = everybody happy!!! It’s a ‘Ponzi scam’ – Google it. For info on the eye-watering amounts they receive, See- http://www.variablep itch.co.uk/finance/ - & yes the monthly totals ARE 100s of millions £££. save energy
  • Score: -5

6:36am Sat 3 May 14

vox sanitatem says...

OK 'save energy', so let's put a nuclear power station on these nimbys doorstep instead. These pathetic people seem to think they've bought the rights to their rural idyll, they are totally living in the past
OK 'save energy', so let's put a nuclear power station on these nimbys doorstep instead. These pathetic people seem to think they've bought the rights to their rural idyll, they are totally living in the past vox sanitatem
  • Score: 1

7:57am Sat 3 May 14

save energy says...

@ vox sanitatem
You are correct; we should be building nuclear power stations, but thorium not uranium.

Why are you are happy to pay 3x the going rate for intermittent unreliable power sources such as wind & solar ???

I note that in the last 6 hrs, wind output has fallen 50% to 2% of demand, so are you now prepared to go without your morning cupper & have a cold shower, just because the wind don’t blow ???

I’m OK, my local nuclear unit has run almost continually for 40yrs, whereas the 2 local wind farms only produce erratically - (not a blade turning at moment).
@ vox sanitatem You are correct; we should be building nuclear power stations, but thorium not uranium. Why are you are happy to pay 3x the going rate for intermittent unreliable power sources such as wind & solar ??? I note that in the last 6 hrs, wind output has fallen 50% to 2% of demand, so are you now prepared to go without your morning cupper & have a cold shower, just because the wind don’t blow ??? I’m OK, my local nuclear unit has run almost continually for 40yrs, whereas the 2 local wind farms only produce erratically - (not a blade turning at moment). save energy
  • Score: -1

5:09pm Sat 3 May 14

Room101 says...

Government tells you to save energy. Energy suppliers don't make enough to keep share holders happy. Prices go up to make those profits. SIMPLE.
Government tells you to save energy. Energy suppliers don't make enough to keep share holders happy. Prices go up to make those profits. SIMPLE. Room101
  • Score: 3

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