Major drugs bust at Bradford Leigh farm (From Wiltshire Times)

Good.

It was probably the only business in the area turning a profit as well. I wonder when all the cannabis apologists will turn up on here??

Why "Good" ???

I guess the smell would have been well-disguised :-)

moreplease wrote:
Why "Good" ???

Because - at the very least -they'll be prosecuted for breaking the law - the bunch of tax-dodging, anything for an easy buck or quick profit r@tbags. Its a pretty good thing whenever criminals are arrested.

notscot wrote:

moreplease wrote:
Why "Good" ???

Because - at the very least -they'll be prosecuted for breaking the law - the bunch of tax-dodging, anything for an easy buck or quick profit r@tbags. Its a pretty good thing whenever criminals are arrested.

They wouldn't be tax dodgers if it were legal ;-).

Well done to all the hard work from the police, now it is time for the courts to make sure all the hard work and taxpayers money is not wasted by letting them go. I for one do not want any type of drug to be on the streets for our kids to be tempted into.

Mystery Mike wrote:

notscot wrote:

moreplease wrote:
Why "Good" ???

Because - at the very least -they'll be prosecuted for breaking the law - the bunch of tax-dodging, anything for an easy buck or quick profit r@tbags. Its a pretty good thing whenever criminals are arrested.

They wouldn't be tax dodgers if it were legal ;-).

There you go Triton!

notscot wrote:

Mystery Mike wrote:

notscot wrote:

moreplease wrote:
Why "Good" ???

Because - at the very least -they'll be prosecuted for breaking the law - the bunch of tax-dodging, anything for an easy buck or quick profit r@tbags. Its a pretty good thing whenever criminals are arrested.

They wouldn't be tax dodgers if it were legal ;-).

There you go Triton!

Yep, knew it wouldn't be long before the apologists turned up. Should have put a fiver on it.

redrum wrote:
Well done to all the hard work from the police, now it is time for the courts to make sure all the hard work and taxpayers money is not wasted by letting them go. I for one do not want any type of drug to be on the streets for our kids to be tempted into.

subtle propaganda from alcohol and tobacco firms is fine though, just so long as the governement tell you it's OK to have those drugs. Despite the numerous deaths and health problems they cause.

That clot Peter Reynolds not posted yet..........?

Excellant news and well done the Police. Said it before and I will say it again we should take a leaf out of Saudi's book and deal with these scumbags in a proper way!

They are not the first and they won't be the last, when one shuts another one opens and we all know it, poor mr Compton dose not have much luck on that farm of his maybe he needs to sell it??

Bit quiet on the apologist front isn't it? Probably all stoned.

Wow really!! wrote:
They are not the first and they won't be the last, when one shuts another one opens and we all know it, poor mr Compton dose not have much luck on that farm of his maybe he needs to sell it??

Agree, this wont affect supply there are too many. Well done to the police though, hope the courts dont just tell them they were naughty and release them!

Triton wrote:
Bit quiet on the apologist front isn't it? Probably all stoned.

Whatever they're up to - it's good news for normality. It's given a chance for most to air their thoughts - they're not all singing from the same hymn sheet - but they're not attempting to insult anyone who's views differ from their own.

redrum wrote:
Well done to all the hard work from the police, now it is time for the courts to make sure all the hard work and taxpayers money is not wasted by letting them go. I for one do not want any type of drug to be on the streets for our kids to be tempted into.

No, i would much rather the kids are tempted into drinking so much they cover our streets in sick/blood/semen/sal
iva on the weekends instead. I wonder how much of our taxpayers money is spent in A&E departments up and down the country treating alcohol related incidents?

Anybody tell me how much cannabis related incidents cost the taxpayer a year in comparison??

For the record..Not an apologist or a user, more a realist.

WHATDIDSHESAY? wrote:

redrum wrote:
Well done to all the hard work from the police, now it is time for the courts to make sure all the hard work and taxpayers money is not wasted by letting them go. I for one do not want any type of drug to be on the streets for our kids to be tempted into.

No, i would much rather the kids are tempted into drinking so much they cover our streets in sick/blood/semen/sal

iva on the weekends instead. I wonder how much of our taxpayers money is spent in A&E departments up and down the country treating alcohol related incidents?

Anybody tell me how much cannabis related incidents cost the taxpayer a year in comparison??

For the record..Not an apologist or a user, more a realist.

And your point is...?
That you'd rather they overlooked the cannabis and try to do what about the legal use of alcohol? Not a lot that the police can do there.
Long may they continue to do what's outlined in this article.
Alcohol - it's pretty much up to us - do we continue to allow alcohol to be sold so cheaply that it's almost cheaper than water?
Time to take stock - the abuse of alcohol is - as you say - the cause of so much trouble - at a huge cost to the taxpayer.
Perhaps we should follow the lead of some other countries - make it an expensive luxury - tax it 'til it's so expensive it's just not an option for most on a regular basis.
With any luck - we may start to go out to socialise.

I do not smoke the stuff but the reason I wrote "why good" is because if the government did tax it then this would not be a problem. This works in other places with no problems. It is also used for pain relief from various illnesses. Is this the case with alcohol or tobacco??? No. Just because the tax from the two provides massive revenue for th government. If alcohol was only discovered last week do you think it would be legal??? Also I can imagine that this "quick buck" this is no different from running a nursery. As for it being illegal so is parking on a double yellow line. I can imagine most have done that. There are many laws that should not exist and many that should but do not. Alcohol and tobacco kills many more than cannabis.
9000 die in uk alone from alcohol, smoking is the single biggest cause of preventable death in the UK and around 114,000 people die prematurely each year because of a smoking-related illness, cannabis deaths are unheard of unless an alergic reaction occurs.

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http://www.guardian.
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jan/24/cannabis-tax-
branson-mps-virgin

If alcohol, tobacco, cannabis, cocaine etc, .etc., had ALL been discovered last week - they'd ALL be prohibited substances.
They weren't and they're not - we can't waste time and effort arguing "if".
(And for every report supporting one opinion regarding the use of cannabis - there's another supporting the oposing opinion. Common sense would tell you smoking anything is hardly natural or safe for the human body.)
While cannabis is prohibited - the police have no choice but to enforce the law - and long may it be.
Meanwhile the nation should give it's head a shake and start making changes in relation to the price & sale of alcohol - and start increasing the taxation on alcohol & tobacco.
No different from running a nursery?
Parking on a double yellow is illegal?
There are many laws that should not exist?
You run a nursery - you get involved with taxation, vat etc.
You get caught on a double yellow - you get a ticket.
You want to make CHANGES in the law - start campaigns - lobby your m.p.'s - try to change public opinion.
Otherwise - you break the laws you don't agree with - you get prosecuted.

Well said, alcohol and tobacco should be expensive to pay for the illnesses they cause and cost the nhs. How many childrens parents these days actually bother to explain the dangers of smoking/drugs/alcoho
l abuse? I have 3 kids between 6 and 10 and my eldest is well aware of the dangers because i have explained to her. People may think this is cruel but any loving parent does not wish for their child to end up dead in a gutter from drugs or excessive alcohol, or putting themself at risk of so many diseases linked with smoking. I know as kids get older you cannot stop them making their own choices, but you can support them and educate them at this age in the hope they will make better choices. I would not be bothered if people who start up drugs factories were hung. If they started to legalise this one, they would want harder drugs legalised to follow. As a medical person who has worked with substance abuse, as well as friend to people who have lost their kids to drug deaths i can honestly say i wish alcohol,fags and drugs were extinct because of the nhs money and lives that would be saved.

notscot wrote:

WHATDIDSHESAY? wrote:

redrum wrote: Well done to all the hard work from the police, now it is time for the courts to make sure all the hard work and taxpayers money is not wasted by letting them go. I for one do not want any type of drug to be on the streets for our kids to be tempted into.

No, i would much rather the kids are tempted into drinking so much they cover our streets in sick/blood/semen/sal iva on the weekends instead. I wonder how much of our taxpayers money is spent in A&E departments up and down the country treating alcohol related incidents? Anybody tell me how much cannabis related incidents cost the taxpayer a year in comparison?? For the record..Not an apologist or a user, more a realist.

And your point is...? That you'd rather they overlooked the cannabis and try to do what about the legal use of alcohol? Not a lot that the police can do there. Long may they continue to do what's outlined in this article. Alcohol - it's pretty much up to us - do we continue to allow alcohol to be sold so cheaply that it's almost cheaper than water? Time to take stock - the abuse of alcohol is - as you say - the cause of so much trouble - at a huge cost to the taxpayer. Perhaps we should follow the lead of some other countries - make it an expensive luxury - tax it 'til it's so expensive it's just not an option for most on a regular basis. With any luck - we may start to go out to socialise.

Thats a bit silly aint it???
Adding extra cost will only force those who cant afford it but abuse it will need to find extra cash to buy. And what will that lead to???
This will only fuel more petty crime.

The govt are missing a trick here, the amount of tax revenue that could be made if they legaly sold cannabis from its est 6m users does not bare thinking about.

All from a plant that naturally grows out of gods green earth.....Tea....Tob
acco.....coffee.....
sound familiar???

redrum wrote:
Well said, alcohol and tobacco should be expensive to pay for the illnesses they cause and cost the nhs. How many childrens parents these days actually bother to explain the dangers of smoking/drugs/alcoho l abuse? I have 3 kids between 6 and 10 and my eldest is well aware of the dangers because i have explained to her. People may think this is cruel but any loving parent does not wish for their child to end up dead in a gutter from drugs or excessive alcohol, or putting themself at risk of so many diseases linked with smoking. I know as kids get older you cannot stop them making their own choices, but you can support them and educate them at this age in the hope they will make better choices. I would not be bothered if people who start up drugs factories were hung. If they started to legalise this one, they would want harder drugs legalised to follow. As a medical person who has worked with substance abuse, as well as friend to people who have lost their kids to drug deaths i can honestly say i wish alcohol,fags and drugs were extinct because of the nhs money and lives that would be saved.

Not that old chestnut, smokers pay for the fair share in treatment in abundunce. "smoking is the largest single cause of preventable illness and premature death in the UK. It kills 106,000 people every year and costs the British taxpayer more than £1.7billion a year in treatment bills alone"
UK Tax revenue from tobacco products - £10 billion (approx)
From tma website

WHATDIDSHESAY? wrote:

notscot wrote:

WHATDIDSHESAY? wrote:

redrum wrote: Well done to all the hard work from the police, now it is time for the courts to make sure all the hard work and taxpayers money is not wasted by letting them go. I for one do not want any type of drug to be on the streets for our kids to be tempted into.

No, i would much rather the kids are tempted into drinking so much they cover our streets in sick/blood/semen/sal iva on the weekends instead. I wonder how much of our taxpayers money is spent in A&E departments up and down the country treating alcohol related incidents? Anybody tell me how much cannabis related incidents cost the taxpayer a year in comparison?? For the record..Not an apologist or a user, more a realist.

And your point is...? That you'd rather they overlooked the cannabis and try to do what about the legal use of alcohol? Not a lot that the police can do there. Long may they continue to do what's outlined in this article. Alcohol - it's pretty much up to us - do we continue to allow alcohol to be sold so cheaply that it's almost cheaper than water? Time to take stock - the abuse of alcohol is - as you say - the cause of so much trouble - at a huge cost to the taxpayer. Perhaps we should follow the lead of some other countries - make it an expensive luxury - tax it 'til it's so expensive it's just not an option for most on a regular basis. With any luck - we may start to go out to socialise.

Thats a bit silly aint it???
Adding extra cost will only force those who cant afford it but abuse it will need to find extra cash to buy. And what will that lead to???
This will only fuel more petty crime.

The govt are missing a trick here, the amount of tax revenue that could be made if they legaly sold cannabis from its est 6m users does not bare thinking about.

All from a plant that naturally grows out of gods green earth.....Tea....Tob

acco.....coffee.....

sound familiar???

So your idea is what? You've mentioned the abuse of alcohol - you've grumbled about the control of cannabis - what are you trying to say?
"Don't do anything - it'll only make it worse!"?

And as for "all from a plant that grows out of gods green earth"........
How many of the ingredients used in the production of anything don't start somewhere on this planet?!!!

I am sure that had this been you're local brewery then you would have all be outraged of Wiltshire. You would have been arguing to defend your culture and way of life.

When it comes to criminalizing over half of the young people in your country and causing them to be alienated from the legal system then you say 'good'.

The stupid thing is that all the cannabis sales in Wiltshire if properly regulated could be funding public services and helping us all out of this hole created by the bankers.

Instead we waste the time of the police, criminalise young people and throw good money after bad. For what purpose? Who knows given that cannabis is far more benign to individual health and society than alcohol and tobacco.

Not stoned (yet) - just bored with seeing my and my community's rights infringed.

Mat Southwell
Respect Drug Users Union

notscot wrote:

WHATDIDSHESAY? wrote:

notscot wrote:

WHATDIDSHESAY? wrote:

redrum wrote: Well done to all the hard work from the police, now it is time for the courts to make sure all the hard work and taxpayers money is not wasted by letting them go. I for one do not want any type of drug to be on the streets for our kids to be tempted into.

No, i would much rather the kids are tempted into drinking so much they cover our streets in sick/blood/semen/sal iva on the weekends instead. I wonder how much of our taxpayers money is spent in A&E departments up and down the country treating alcohol related incidents? Anybody tell me how much cannabis related incidents cost the taxpayer a year in comparison?? For the record..Not an apologist or a user, more a realist.

And your point is...? That you'd rather they overlooked the cannabis and try to do what about the legal use of alcohol? Not a lot that the police can do there. Long may they continue to do what's outlined in this article. Alcohol - it's pretty much up to us - do we continue to allow alcohol to be sold so cheaply that it's almost cheaper than water? Time to take stock - the abuse of alcohol is - as you say - the cause of so much trouble - at a huge cost to the taxpayer. Perhaps we should follow the lead of some other countries - make it an expensive luxury - tax it 'til it's so expensive it's just not an option for most on a regular basis. With any luck - we may start to go out to socialise.

Thats a bit silly aint it??? Adding extra cost will only force those who cant afford it but abuse it will need to find extra cash to buy. And what will that lead to??? This will only fuel more petty crime. The govt are missing a trick here, the amount of tax revenue that could be made if they legaly sold cannabis from its est 6m users does not bare thinking about. All from a plant that naturally grows out of gods green earth.....Tea....Tob acco.....coffee..... sound familiar???

So your idea is what? You've mentioned the abuse of alcohol - you've grumbled about the control of cannabis - what are you trying to say? "Don't do anything - it'll only make it worse!"? And as for "all from a plant that grows out of gods green earth"........ How many of the ingredients used in the production of anything don't start somewhere on this planet?!!!

If you re-read the post from the govt have ......
Tax revenue gained from legalising cannibis, like i have said in two posts. Do you want me to spell it out for you??
Or is your opinion so right no one else with an opinion matters??
Haha, there'e me thinking this wooden desk im sat at and the tea bag im stirring all come straight off a tree ready formed...
Cannisbis is ready to be used straight out of the soil. Nothing needs changing to it.
If people want to smoke the vast quanities of the stuff, let them knock themselves out. But at least let the govt make some money out of it.

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/David_Nutt
Getting sacked because his scientific research does not not agree with govt policy.....
Yet more dinosaur mp's so out of touch with whats happening in vast area's of this country its laughable.

they sowed the drugs, they got caught so now they reap the consequences. I'm sure they've taken plenty of money along the way so a fine be ok. But, i think their houses are going to be taken as illegal earnings. I say if anyone wants to take drugs (i mean any drugs fags, glue, drink) then its upto them. If they die from it, then i say tough, their choice in the end.

Jigaw - if it's up to all of us what we put into our bodies then why is everyone so interested in attacking the drug scene whether suppliers or users? The reality is that the vast majority use in a safe and responsible manner. It's prohibition and putting pressure on drug scenes that is so irresponsible.

I don't make the laws, but, its everyones choice to evaluate their own predicament and decide whats best. Laws are a guide to follow. If people want to get stoned, drunk,snort,inject then its their choice. But, if it causes harm to anyone else then there's the problem. i would quite happily accept a legal substance and tax it at a high price to cover NHS/Doctors as alchohol should be. But, thats just my opinion.

MatSouthwell wrote:
I am sure that had this been you're local brewery then you would have all be outraged of Wiltshire. You would have been arguing to defend your culture and way of life.

When it comes to criminalizing over half of the young people in your country and causing them to be alienated from the legal system then you say 'good'.

The stupid thing is that all the cannabis sales in Wiltshire if properly regulated could be funding public services and helping us all out of this hole created by the bankers.

Instead we waste the time of the police, criminalise young people and throw good money after bad. For what purpose? Who knows given that cannabis is far more benign to individual health and society than alcohol and tobacco.

Not stoned (yet) - just bored with seeing my and my community's rights infringed.

Mat Southwell
Respect Drug Users Union

No - had the local brewery closed I'd have had sympathy for the workforce.
Criminalizing over half the young people in the country?
What - you mean NONE of them know that it's use/cultivation isn't legal? And if your maths are right - THEY criminalize themselves by their use.
Alienation? More of that caused by sites that misinform & misguide.
Properly regulated? It is - it's illegal.
Who's wasting police time? Those who grow it/sell it/use it- they do so in the full knowedge that it's illegal and the police have to police it.
You keep referring to "if" - get real - it isn't currently legal- don't be lazy - if you believe in it - campaign for it.
You and your community's rights have been infringed? How?

Could I just ask everyone to take the time to read this: I think everyone becomes instantly negative about the drug subject. MOST people forget that a lot of people are suffering from addiction as well rising fatalities. I'm not say what's right or wrong. Just offering my input into another way of preventing one of the UK biggest issues.

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/politics/2012/
jan/24/cannabis-tax-
branson-mps-virgin

WHATDIDSHESAY? wrote:

notscot wrote:

WHATDIDSHESAY? wrote:

notscot wrote:

WHATDIDSHESAY? wrote:

redrum wrote: Well done to all the hard work from the police, now it is time for the courts to make sure all the hard work and taxpayers money is not wasted by letting them go. I for one do not want any type of drug to be on the streets for our kids to be tempted into.

No, i would much rather the kids are tempted into drinking so much they cover our streets in sick/blood/semen/sal iva on the weekends instead. I wonder how much of our taxpayers money is spent in A&E departments up and down the country treating alcohol related incidents? Anybody tell me how much cannabis related incidents cost the taxpayer a year in comparison?? For the record..Not an apologist or a user, more a realist.

And your point is...? That you'd rather they overlooked the cannabis and try to do what about the legal use of alcohol? Not a lot that the police can do there. Long may they continue to do what's outlined in this article. Alcohol - it's pretty much up to us - do we continue to allow alcohol to be sold so cheaply that it's almost cheaper than water? Time to take stock - the abuse of alcohol is - as you say - the cause of so much trouble - at a huge cost to the taxpayer. Perhaps we should follow the lead of some other countries - make it an expensive luxury - tax it 'til it's so expensive it's just not an option for most on a regular basis. With any luck - we may start to go out to socialise.

Thats a bit silly aint it??? Adding extra cost will only force those who cant afford it but abuse it will need to find extra cash to buy. And what will that lead to??? This will only fuel more petty crime. The govt are missing a trick here, the amount of tax revenue that could be made if they legaly sold cannabis from its est 6m users does not bare thinking about. All from a plant that naturally grows out of gods green earth.....Tea....Tob acco.....coffee..... sound familiar???

So your idea is what? You've mentioned the abuse of alcohol - you've grumbled about the control of cannabis - what are you trying to say? "Don't do anything - it'll only make it worse!"? And as for "all from a plant that grows out of gods green earth"........ How many of the ingredients used in the production of anything don't start somewhere on this planet?!!!

If you re-read the post from the govt have ......
Tax revenue gained from legalising cannibis, like i have said in two posts. Do you want me to spell it out for you??
Or is your opinion so right no one else with an opinion matters??
Haha, there'e me thinking this wooden desk im sat at and the tea bag im stirring all come straight off a tree ready formed...
Cannisbis is ready to be used straight out of the soil. Nothing needs changing to it.
If people want to smoke the vast quanities of the stuff, let them knock themselves out. But at least let the govt make some money out of it.

Don't go off on one - I'm not knocking you because your opinion is different.
I'm just saying - for every article and set of statistics in favour of a particular line of thought - there's an opposing set - and I'm interested in the reasoning behind some of your statements - though it doesn't mean I'll be changing my opinion any time soon.
It's all down to belief. And the law.
CURRENTLY - production and use of cannabis isn't legal.
By your own maths - within a couple of years a huge chunk of the populace will be in favour of it's decriminalisation - fine - you can all get together and change the law.
And your last argument - not all tea is used by us straight off the bush - the desk wasn't cut straight from the tree - you COULD use belladonna straight from the ground - though it wouldn't do you much good, would it?

I have driven past this farm for the last 10 years and remember when the smell would make you feel sick during the summer. This farm was and still is a blot on the Wiltshire countryside. Bulldoze the whole lot and turn it into much needed housing!