People get their skates on to sign Trowbridge ice rink and bowling alley petition

Wiltshire Times: Leanne Coates has set up  an online petition asking for support for an ice rink or bowling alley in Trowbridge Leanne Coates has set up an online petition asking for support for an ice rink or bowling alley in Trowbridge

Trowbridge woman Leanne Coates said she is surprised by the amount of support she has already had, after setting up a petition asking Wiltshire Council to build a bowling alley and ice rink in the town.

The 20-year-old of Paxcroft Mead, Trowbridge, moved to Melksham with her dad and his partner a year ago from Hampshire, before getting her own flat in the Trowbridge.

Miss Coates said that since she has been in the town she has found there to be a limited amount of things for young people to do, especially compared to where she used to live.

She decided to set a petition up on www.change.org asking Wiltshire Council to consider building a bowling alley or ice rink last Sunday and has already had more than 600 signatures in support, despite only posting the petition on her Facebook page and selling pages.

Miss Coates said: “I was just sitting at my dad’s home thinking about how there was not much to do in Trowbridge, so I decided to set up a petition to get support for something new.

“I started off by putting it on my Facebook page and then on the Trowbridge selling pages on Facebook that I’m part of. I was only expecting a few of my friends to sign it - I certainly wasn’t expecting such a great response.

“Looking at the comments there is a lot of support for having these options as it would help get kids off the street and give them something a bit different to do.

“I think it would also help the town’s businesses as it would bring more people to the area as currently you have to travel to Bristol for a decent bowling alley and Swindon for a big ice rink.”

Miss Coates said that a lot of the people supporting her petition said a bowling alley and ice rink would be better than having a second cinema at the former Bowyers factory site, which was approved on appeal in January.

She added: “Lots of people have commented saying a second cinema is unnecessary. I have been in the new cinema a few times and the screenings have never been full, so they should have looked at different options.”

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11:15am Fri 25 Apr 14

Polly52 says...

What a great idea, common sense applied by the youth of our area..
What a great idea, common sense applied by the youth of our area.. Polly52
  • Score: 18

2:24pm Fri 25 Apr 14

€d says...

I'm not sure Wiltshire Council have the money to build and operate aniIce rink and bowling alley.
I'm not sure Wiltshire Council have the money to build and operate aniIce rink and bowling alley. €d
  • Score: 4

2:34pm Fri 25 Apr 14

GP & JK GOT IT WRONG says...

its probably to late but it does show how many people are against a SECOND cinema .We all wanted variation not duplication
its probably to late but it does show how many people are against a SECOND cinema .We all wanted variation not duplication GP & JK GOT IT WRONG
  • Score: 15

6:54pm Fri 25 Apr 14

New 2 Trow says...

Miss Coates

I admire your idea and effort but you dont understand how the world works.

Wiltshire Council cannot build this for you, unless everyone agrees to pay more council tax to to pay for it. Wiltshire Council also tried to buy Peter Blacks but were outbid by a PRIVATE bidder.

This is the issue. In a captalist world private developers decide what is viable and build it IF the demand is there. The Council only gets involved once the developers submit a planning application.

Remember when M&S food pulled out of the Shires. It was because there wasnt enough demand for their product. So if the maths doesnt add up for an Ice Rink or Bowling Alley, it wont be built.

A lot of the comments on the petition also say the Council shouldnt have allowed a second cinema. Well Bowyers was refused and then allowed on appeal by the government. Not the Council's fault. The Council also cannot force that developer to change the cinema to a bowling alley.

007 you need to look at the comments in the petition. It doesnt appear that most of Trowbridge wanted the cinema in boywers after all!
Miss Coates I admire your idea and effort but you dont understand how the world works. Wiltshire Council cannot build this for you, unless everyone agrees to pay more council tax to to pay for it. Wiltshire Council also tried to buy Peter Blacks but were outbid by a PRIVATE bidder. This is the issue. In a captalist world private developers decide what is viable and build it IF the demand is there. The Council only gets involved once the developers submit a planning application. Remember when M&S food pulled out of the Shires. It was because there wasnt enough demand for their product. So if the maths doesnt add up for an Ice Rink or Bowling Alley, it wont be built. A lot of the comments on the petition also say the Council shouldnt have allowed a second cinema. Well Bowyers was refused and then allowed on appeal by the government. Not the Council's fault. The Council also cannot force that developer to change the cinema to a bowling alley. 007 you need to look at the comments in the petition. It doesnt appear that most of Trowbridge wanted the cinema in boywers after all! New 2 Trow
  • Score: 18

4:17am Sat 26 Apr 14

AMVanquish007 says...

Some people just dont get it and have short memories- Innox Riverside was first with its plans for a cinema. St Stephens Place came in after. Its alright to talk about not wanting a second cinema but Cineworld was contractually committed from the outset. We all heard about Odeon from October 2011 but as far as we are led to believe they did not sign until 2012 anyway. Its what should have been built on St Stephens Place -Not Innox Riverside!
Miss Coates request is admirable and i support her good intentions but its not the council but a commercial operation that determines its viability and as I have said before and let me shout it out for a last time -
A BOWLING COMPANY WILL NOT GO INTO A DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT A CINEMA AS AN ANCHOR
Maybe Miss Coates should present her petition to Grimleys to give to the potential new owners of the Peter Blacks site. Maybe they might be encouraged to consider building one next to the Odeon but it has to be at least 12 lanes for profitability and that requires a huge building of width and length.
As for an Ice Rink -again these are few and far between and are predominantly city based and have sponsored ice hockey teams. The cost of keeping the icemaking equipment running is huge which would result in a high admission cost. It too requires a building of width and length.
Innox Riverside cannot accommodate as the appeal plans are set in stone with the supermarket, cinema, estaurants and car parking with the prospect of the much needed petrol station.
Psychologically if you raise a petition that is for an Ice Rink or Bowling Alley,its more than likely going to encourage those who think that one cinema is enough.
But the fact is that the Odeon is one of the most successful 7 screen cinemas in the country despite what Miss Coates says about the cinema not being full and we are still underscreened in the area. Several films have been advertised on screen and on TV but they havent played here at all.
The Cineworld with its 8 screens and booking policy will correct that.
And Im quite sure that when the general public gets a taste of Cineworlds Unlimited Pass they will suddenly realize that there is more to life than Bargain Tuesdays, great though they are.
Cineworld is happening-they are going to build -AND THATS FINAL --so enough of these continual comments of what should be there in its place- The majority of supporters, which are not a minority, are like myself, quite frankly, getting sick of it !!!!!
Demolition of Innox is imminent and not before time.
The general public will then start to see the £46 million investment take shape rather than the eyesore they see now.
Some people just dont get it and have short memories- Innox Riverside was first with its plans for a cinema. St Stephens Place came in after. Its alright to talk about not wanting a second cinema but Cineworld was contractually committed from the outset. We all heard about Odeon from October 2011 but as far as we are led to believe they did not sign until 2012 anyway. Its what should have been built on St Stephens Place -Not Innox Riverside! Miss Coates request is admirable and i support her good intentions but its not the council but a commercial operation that determines its viability and as I have said before and let me shout it out for a last time - A BOWLING COMPANY WILL NOT GO INTO A DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT A CINEMA AS AN ANCHOR Maybe Miss Coates should present her petition to Grimleys to give to the potential new owners of the Peter Blacks site. Maybe they might be encouraged to consider building one next to the Odeon but it has to be at least 12 lanes for profitability and that requires a huge building of width and length. As for an Ice Rink -again these are few and far between and are predominantly city based and have sponsored ice hockey teams. The cost of keeping the icemaking equipment running is huge which would result in a high admission cost. It too requires a building of width and length. Innox Riverside cannot accommodate as the appeal plans are set in stone with the supermarket, cinema, estaurants and car parking with the prospect of the much needed petrol station. Psychologically if you raise a petition that is for an Ice Rink or Bowling Alley,its more than likely going to encourage those who think that one cinema is enough. But the fact is that the Odeon is one of the most successful 7 screen cinemas in the country despite what Miss Coates says about the cinema not being full and we are still underscreened in the area. Several films have been advertised on screen and on TV but they havent played here at all. The Cineworld with its 8 screens and booking policy will correct that. And Im quite sure that when the general public gets a taste of Cineworlds Unlimited Pass they will suddenly realize that there is more to life than Bargain Tuesdays, great though they are. Cineworld is happening-they are going to build -AND THATS FINAL --so enough of these continual comments of what should be there in its place- The majority of supporters, which are not a minority, are like myself, quite frankly, getting sick of it !!!!! Demolition of Innox is imminent and not before time. The general public will then start to see the £46 million investment take shape rather than the eyesore they see now. AMVanquish007
  • Score: 4

4:22am Sat 26 Apr 14

AMVanquish007 says...

My Line-Its what should have been built on St Stephens Place meaning that that is where the Bowling Alley should have gone not the cinema
My Line-Its what should have been built on St Stephens Place meaning that that is where the Bowling Alley should have gone not the cinema AMVanquish007
  • Score: -5

5:07am Sat 26 Apr 14

trowbridge52 says...

what we have to remember is the second cinema is a cineworld who a lot more people will use as they do good offers on the tickets they sell i agree with a bowling alley but as i believe there is one in melksham doubt we will get one we have a lot of empty shops and unfinished buildings surely if any money was to be spent it should be used in making the town centre and other empty buildings put to good use and used
what we have to remember is the second cinema is a cineworld who a lot more people will use as they do good offers on the tickets they sell i agree with a bowling alley but as i believe there is one in melksham doubt we will get one we have a lot of empty shops and unfinished buildings surely if any money was to be spent it should be used in making the town centre and other empty buildings put to good use and used trowbridge52
  • Score: -1

1:26pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Manutd111 says...

Why would someone build a bowling alley in Trowbridge when there is already one in Melksham? It just wouldn't be commercially viable in Trowbridge.
Why would someone build a bowling alley in Trowbridge when there is already one in Melksham? It just wouldn't be commercially viable in Trowbridge. Manutd111
  • Score: 0

1:27pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Manutd111 says...

AMVanquish007 wrote:
Some people just dont get it and have short memories- Innox Riverside was first with its plans for a cinema. St Stephens Place came in after. Its alright to talk about not wanting a second cinema but Cineworld was contractually committed from the outset. We all heard about Odeon from October 2011 but as far as we are led to believe they did not sign until 2012 anyway. Its what should have been built on St Stephens Place -Not Innox Riverside!
Miss Coates request is admirable and i support her good intentions but its not the council but a commercial operation that determines its viability and as I have said before and let me shout it out for a last time -
A BOWLING COMPANY WILL NOT GO INTO A DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT A CINEMA AS AN ANCHOR
Maybe Miss Coates should present her petition to Grimleys to give to the potential new owners of the Peter Blacks site. Maybe they might be encouraged to consider building one next to the Odeon but it has to be at least 12 lanes for profitability and that requires a huge building of width and length.
As for an Ice Rink -again these are few and far between and are predominantly city based and have sponsored ice hockey teams. The cost of keeping the icemaking equipment running is huge which would result in a high admission cost. It too requires a building of width and length.
Innox Riverside cannot accommodate as the appeal plans are set in stone with the supermarket, cinema, estaurants and car parking with the prospect of the much needed petrol station.
Psychologically if you raise a petition that is for an Ice Rink or Bowling Alley,its more than likely going to encourage those who think that one cinema is enough.
But the fact is that the Odeon is one of the most successful 7 screen cinemas in the country despite what Miss Coates says about the cinema not being full and we are still underscreened in the area. Several films have been advertised on screen and on TV but they havent played here at all.
The Cineworld with its 8 screens and booking policy will correct that.
And Im quite sure that when the general public gets a taste of Cineworlds Unlimited Pass they will suddenly realize that there is more to life than Bargain Tuesdays, great though they are.
Cineworld is happening-they are going to build -AND THATS FINAL --so enough of these continual comments of what should be there in its place- The majority of supporters, which are not a minority, are like myself, quite frankly, getting sick of it !!!!!
Demolition of Innox is imminent and not before time.
The general public will then start to see the £46 million investment take shape rather than the eyesore they see now.
So very well said!
[quote][p][bold]AMVanquish007[/bold] wrote: Some people just dont get it and have short memories- Innox Riverside was first with its plans for a cinema. St Stephens Place came in after. Its alright to talk about not wanting a second cinema but Cineworld was contractually committed from the outset. We all heard about Odeon from October 2011 but as far as we are led to believe they did not sign until 2012 anyway. Its what should have been built on St Stephens Place -Not Innox Riverside! Miss Coates request is admirable and i support her good intentions but its not the council but a commercial operation that determines its viability and as I have said before and let me shout it out for a last time - A BOWLING COMPANY WILL NOT GO INTO A DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT A CINEMA AS AN ANCHOR Maybe Miss Coates should present her petition to Grimleys to give to the potential new owners of the Peter Blacks site. Maybe they might be encouraged to consider building one next to the Odeon but it has to be at least 12 lanes for profitability and that requires a huge building of width and length. As for an Ice Rink -again these are few and far between and are predominantly city based and have sponsored ice hockey teams. The cost of keeping the icemaking equipment running is huge which would result in a high admission cost. It too requires a building of width and length. Innox Riverside cannot accommodate as the appeal plans are set in stone with the supermarket, cinema, estaurants and car parking with the prospect of the much needed petrol station. Psychologically if you raise a petition that is for an Ice Rink or Bowling Alley,its more than likely going to encourage those who think that one cinema is enough. But the fact is that the Odeon is one of the most successful 7 screen cinemas in the country despite what Miss Coates says about the cinema not being full and we are still underscreened in the area. Several films have been advertised on screen and on TV but they havent played here at all. The Cineworld with its 8 screens and booking policy will correct that. And Im quite sure that when the general public gets a taste of Cineworlds Unlimited Pass they will suddenly realize that there is more to life than Bargain Tuesdays, great though they are. Cineworld is happening-they are going to build -AND THATS FINAL --so enough of these continual comments of what should be there in its place- The majority of supporters, which are not a minority, are like myself, quite frankly, getting sick of it !!!!! Demolition of Innox is imminent and not before time. The general public will then start to see the £46 million investment take shape rather than the eyesore they see now.[/p][/quote]So very well said! Manutd111
  • Score: -5

1:29pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Manutd111 says...

GP & JK GOT IT WRONG wrote:
its probably to late but it does show how many people are against a SECOND cinema .We all wanted variation not duplication
What, all 12 of them who have left comments - a non valid point in my opinion. And I didn't want variation, so "we all" is also another non valid point. 2 of something offer choice.
[quote][p][bold]GP & JK GOT IT WRONG[/bold] wrote: its probably to late but it does show how many people are against a SECOND cinema .We all wanted variation not duplication[/p][/quote]What, all 12 of them who have left comments - a non valid point in my opinion. And I didn't want variation, so "we all" is also another non valid point. 2 of something offer choice. Manutd111
  • Score: 0

1:32pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Manutd111 says...

To be honest, Leanne Coates has actually no idea how the real world works. I feel she's on a high, and will come crashing down very soon. Her Father should have been a little bit more "real" with her as she will end up extremely disappointed.
To be honest, Leanne Coates has actually no idea how the real world works. I feel she's on a high, and will come crashing down very soon. Her Father should have been a little bit more "real" with her as she will end up extremely disappointed. Manutd111
  • Score: 5

1:57pm Sat 26 Apr 14

brandx says...

Some very valid comments above, especially NEW 2 Trow and, of course, those banging the Cineworld drum. We surely don't want Council Tax going up for some sort of Wish List project, such as Bowling Alleys and Ice Rinks. These must be commercial enterprises and as with all such matters the market will decide.

Still no news on what is planned for Peter Blacks or whether or not Trowbridge Campus - Swimming Pool included - is more than a pipe dream. Given that Wiltshire Council has got land for this and potential capital from selling off the Bradley Road site, the campus may just happen - but when and whether it could or should include a bowling alley and/or ice rink, is another story.
Some very valid comments above, especially NEW 2 Trow and, of course, those banging the Cineworld drum. We surely don't want Council Tax going up for some sort of Wish List project, such as Bowling Alleys and Ice Rinks. These must be commercial enterprises and as with all such matters the market will decide. Still no news on what is planned for Peter Blacks or whether or not Trowbridge Campus - Swimming Pool included - is more than a pipe dream. Given that Wiltshire Council has got land for this and potential capital from selling off the Bradley Road site, the campus may just happen - but when and whether it could or should include a bowling alley and/or ice rink, is another story. brandx
  • Score: 6

9:44pm Sun 27 Apr 14

New 2 Trow says...

Bristol has an ice rink and that is facing closure due to under use, why would Trowbridge stand any chance of supporting one?
Bristol has an ice rink and that is facing closure due to under use, why would Trowbridge stand any chance of supporting one? New 2 Trow
  • Score: 8

9:47pm Sun 27 Apr 14

New 2 Trow says...

Correction, the ice rink in bristol is being demolished, reasons cited by the owner was that it cost too much to run and wasn't making enough money.
Correction, the ice rink in bristol is being demolished, reasons cited by the owner was that it cost too much to run and wasn't making enough money. New 2 Trow
  • Score: 10

10:08am Mon 28 Apr 14

beetawix says...

There is nothing like the mention of a cinema or a bowling alley to bring out the compulsive essay writers.
There is nothing like the mention of a cinema or a bowling alley to bring out the compulsive essay writers. beetawix
  • Score: 11

8:30am Tue 29 Apr 14

AMVanquish007 says...

Yes Beetawix - but when it's explained succinctly by a person of knowledge and experience and the point is put over with gravitas then it doesn't matter whether the response to an article is in précis or essay form.
I was always taught to respond to or answer questions or statements and build in the what would inevitably draw the what/why/when/where and how respondents.
At least the majority of people understand what I say . You may or may not agree with it but Im certainly not going to apologise for being taught good grammar school English or how I put myself across so that people can understand.
Yes Beetawix - but when it's explained succinctly by a person of knowledge and experience and the point is put over with gravitas then it doesn't matter whether the response to an article is in précis or essay form. I was always taught to respond to or answer questions or statements and build in the what would inevitably draw the what/why/when/where and how respondents. At least the majority of people understand what I say . You may or may not agree with it but Im certainly not going to apologise for being taught good grammar school English or how I put myself across so that people can understand. AMVanquish007
  • Score: 7

8:42am Tue 29 Apr 14

AMVanquish007 says...

Can you spot the deliberate typo
answers on a postcard to..........
Can you spot the deliberate typo answers on a postcard to.......... AMVanquish007
  • Score: -8

3:11pm Tue 29 Apr 14

medievalvillager says...

AMVanquish007 wrote:
Can you spot the deliberate typo
answers on a postcard to..........
I am flummoxed !!
[quote][p][bold]AMVanquish007[/bold] wrote: Can you spot the deliberate typo answers on a postcard to..........[/p][/quote]I am flummoxed !! medievalvillager
  • Score: 4

4:45pm Tue 29 Apr 14

he of one braincell says...

Im = I'm ?
Im = I'm ? he of one braincell
  • Score: 0

12:47am Wed 30 Apr 14

cmness says...

Come on guys and girls, cut the young lady some slack. (In particular manutd111)

Personally i think the plan is a total waste, and although its true a second cinema is going to happen, and yet another supermarket is going to be built, at least she's got the guts to put a word in for common sense.

I'm afraid I'm baffled that there were people willing to give up their time to protest when it looked like the second cinema wasn't going to happen. We realise that it is the developers choice as cineworld wanted to move to the site, but surely the council has to toughen up a bit, and say is this the best use of land, or do we just want to get the site developed as quick as possible so it doesn't sit derelict forever and a day. I wonder if its more that a morrisons is a quick way of finding 200 low paid overworked jobs.

Do I think an ice rink would be viable, no, but a bowling alley is plausible, and I'm sure there would have been other options that could have been considered.

And a question for those who want a second cinema and 'protested'. When it opens, will you then boycott the odeon? All this talk of price competition is ridiculous, just like people saying a morrisons petrol station will lower fuel prices. If you think that, I'm afraid you just don't understand how it works.

Fair play to you Leanne, shame common sense is something that isn't implemented more often.
Come on guys and girls, cut the young lady some slack. (In particular manutd111) Personally i think the plan is a total waste, and although its true a second cinema is going to happen, and yet another supermarket is going to be built, at least she's got the guts to put a word in for common sense. I'm afraid I'm baffled that there were people willing to give up their time to protest when it looked like the second cinema wasn't going to happen. We realise that it is the developers choice as cineworld wanted to move to the site, but surely the council has to toughen up a bit, and say is this the best use of land, or do we just want to get the site developed as quick as possible so it doesn't sit derelict forever and a day. I wonder if its more that a morrisons is a quick way of finding 200 low paid overworked jobs. Do I think an ice rink would be viable, no, but a bowling alley is plausible, and I'm sure there would have been other options that could have been considered. And a question for those who want a second cinema and 'protested'. When it opens, will you then boycott the odeon? All this talk of price competition is ridiculous, just like people saying a morrisons petrol station will lower fuel prices. If you think that, I'm afraid you just don't understand how it works. Fair play to you Leanne, shame common sense is something that isn't implemented more often. cmness
  • Score: 4

12:52am Wed 30 Apr 14

cmness says...

Manutd111 wrote:
Why would someone build a bowling alley in Trowbridge when there is already one in Melksham? It just wouldn't be commercially viable in Trowbridge.
You consider Christie Miller a bowling alley?
[quote][p][bold]Manutd111[/bold] wrote: Why would someone build a bowling alley in Trowbridge when there is already one in Melksham? It just wouldn't be commercially viable in Trowbridge.[/p][/quote]You consider Christie Miller a bowling alley? cmness
  • Score: 4

12:55am Wed 30 Apr 14

cmness says...

Manutd111 wrote:
To be honest, Leanne Coates has actually no idea how the real world works. I feel she's on a high, and will come crashing down very soon. Her Father should have been a little bit more "real" with her as she will end up extremely disappointed.
I believe that comments such as this are completely unnecessary, and don't have any place here.
[quote][p][bold]Manutd111[/bold] wrote: To be honest, Leanne Coates has actually no idea how the real world works. I feel she's on a high, and will come crashing down very soon. Her Father should have been a little bit more "real" with her as she will end up extremely disappointed.[/p][/quote]I believe that comments such as this are completely unnecessary, and don't have any place here. cmness
  • Score: 10

2:04am Wed 30 Apr 14

AMVanquish007 says...

cmness-Read what I said above-the contractually commited Cineworld was first -not the Odeon which did not commit until months after. As I mentioned, Cineworld has its Unlimited Pass for significant cost savings and has a film booking policy which differs from Odeon on the smaller and arthouse product =plus it has different agreements with alternative programming companies ie Opera, Live Theatre etc. So your boycott line is quite preposterous and having worked in cinemas there IS competitve pricing which is instigated when there is competition amongst rival cinema chains when in close proximity.
As for the petrol station when it opens-you watch Tescos bite the bullet and shave the price of unleaded to match Morrisons which will and has always been significantly cheaper nationwide-and you dont have to buy £50 of food to benefit.
I remember the price in Gallons before it went to Litres and i can tell you even a 1p litre difference on unleaded or diesel between rival filling stations has a significant effect on a familys tight budget.
Were it not for Applegreen in Bythesea Road we would be being charged Devizes prices of £1.34 per litre and not the £1.28 we enjoy at present
cmness-Read what I said above-the contractually commited Cineworld was first -not the Odeon which did not commit until months after. As I mentioned, Cineworld has its Unlimited Pass for significant cost savings and has a film booking policy which differs from Odeon on the smaller and arthouse product =plus it has different agreements with alternative programming companies ie Opera, Live Theatre etc. So your boycott line is quite preposterous and having worked in cinemas there IS competitve pricing which is instigated when there is competition amongst rival cinema chains when in close proximity. As for the petrol station when it opens-you watch Tescos bite the bullet and shave the price of unleaded to match Morrisons which will and has always been significantly cheaper nationwide-and you dont have to buy £50 of food to benefit. I remember the price in Gallons before it went to Litres and i can tell you even a 1p litre difference on unleaded or diesel between rival filling stations has a significant effect on a familys tight budget. Were it not for Applegreen in Bythesea Road we would be being charged Devizes prices of £1.34 per litre and not the £1.28 we enjoy at present AMVanquish007
  • Score: -4

9:20am Wed 30 Apr 14

bigbadjohn says...

Why on earth should Trowbridge have any more investment, they already have good facilities. Melksham has very little, and all investment seems to go in to Trowbridge.
Why on earth should Trowbridge have any more investment, they already have good facilities. Melksham has very little, and all investment seems to go in to Trowbridge. bigbadjohn
  • Score: -9

9:50am Wed 30 Apr 14

New 2 Trow says...

cmness wrote:
Come on guys and girls, cut the young lady some slack. (In particular manutd111) Personally i think the plan is a total waste, and although its true a second cinema is going to happen, and yet another supermarket is going to be built, at least she's got the guts to put a word in for common sense. I'm afraid I'm baffled that there were people willing to give up their time to protest when it looked like the second cinema wasn't going to happen. We realise that it is the developers choice as cineworld wanted to move to the site, but surely the council has to toughen up a bit, and say is this the best use of land, or do we just want to get the site developed as quick as possible so it doesn't sit derelict forever and a day. I wonder if its more that a morrisons is a quick way of finding 200 low paid overworked jobs. Do I think an ice rink would be viable, no, but a bowling alley is plausible, and I'm sure there would have been other options that could have been considered. And a question for those who want a second cinema and 'protested'. When it opens, will you then boycott the odeon? All this talk of price competition is ridiculous, just like people saying a morrisons petrol station will lower fuel prices. If you think that, I'm afraid you just don't understand how it works. Fair play to you Leanne, shame common sense is something that isn't implemented more often.
cmness

The Council refused the application and then tried to protect that view via a PUBLIC INQUIRY, the highest form of appeal there is. If that isn’t tough action then I don’t know what is. The Council also got spat out on these pages for taking such a stance.

If L&G bought Peter Blacks then they might be considering building a bolwing alley to complement the Odeon, but again, only if the Maths stacks up. Who knows, any manufacturer could have bought Peter Blacks with the intention of starting production there again, which would bring jobs, another good thing.

I applauded miss Coates for trying to do something but your comments are just as naive as her petition.

If you want to do something for Trowbridge Google 'Neighbourhood Plans'.
[quote][p][bold]cmness[/bold] wrote: Come on guys and girls, cut the young lady some slack. (In particular manutd111) Personally i think the plan is a total waste, and although its true a second cinema is going to happen, and yet another supermarket is going to be built, at least she's got the guts to put a word in for common sense. I'm afraid I'm baffled that there were people willing to give up their time to protest when it looked like the second cinema wasn't going to happen. We realise that it is the developers choice as cineworld wanted to move to the site, but surely the council has to toughen up a bit, and say is this the best use of land, or do we just want to get the site developed as quick as possible so it doesn't sit derelict forever and a day. I wonder if its more that a morrisons is a quick way of finding 200 low paid overworked jobs. Do I think an ice rink would be viable, no, but a bowling alley is plausible, and I'm sure there would have been other options that could have been considered. And a question for those who want a second cinema and 'protested'. When it opens, will you then boycott the odeon? All this talk of price competition is ridiculous, just like people saying a morrisons petrol station will lower fuel prices. If you think that, I'm afraid you just don't understand how it works. Fair play to you Leanne, shame common sense is something that isn't implemented more often.[/p][/quote]cmness The Council refused the application and then tried to protect that view via a PUBLIC INQUIRY, the highest form of appeal there is. If that isn’t tough action then I don’t know what is. The Council also got spat out on these pages for taking such a stance. If L&G bought Peter Blacks then they might be considering building a bolwing alley to complement the Odeon, but again, only if the Maths stacks up. Who knows, any manufacturer could have bought Peter Blacks with the intention of starting production there again, which would bring jobs, another good thing. I applauded miss Coates for trying to do something but your comments are just as naive as her petition. If you want to do something for Trowbridge Google 'Neighbourhood Plans'. New 2 Trow
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10:51pm Thu 1 May 14

cmness says...

AMVanquish007 wrote:
cmness-Read what I said above-the contractually commited Cineworld was first -not the Odeon which did not commit until months after. As I mentioned, Cineworld has its Unlimited Pass for significant cost savings and has a film booking policy which differs from Odeon on the smaller and arthouse product =plus it has different agreements with alternative programming companies ie Opera, Live Theatre etc. So your boycott line is quite preposterous and having worked in cinemas there IS competitve pricing which is instigated when there is competition amongst rival cinema chains when in close proximity.
As for the petrol station when it opens-you watch Tescos bite the bullet and shave the price of unleaded to match Morrisons which will and has always been significantly cheaper nationwide-and you dont have to buy £50 of food to benefit.
I remember the price in Gallons before it went to Litres and i can tell you even a 1p litre difference on unleaded or diesel between rival filling stations has a significant effect on a familys tight budget.
Were it not for Applegreen in Bythesea Road we would be being charged Devizes prices of £1.34 per litre and not the £1.28 we enjoy at present
So families on their 'tight budget' will be going out to buy 'unlimited passes'. Perhaps they can save up all of the 1p per litre they may save to buy one. A new petrol station will not start a fuel price war. The margins just aren't there. Independent stations are making next to nothing due to the taxation levels, and having worked in the industry supermarkets cannot lower prices much more or they will be subsidising the cost. In some cases they already do, and in this current economic climate it isn't viable to do so. If you think the price of fuel in trowbridge is being dictated by the applegreen site you are very sadly mistaken. And unless you are spending horrendous amounts of money a week on fuel, 1p a litres price reduction doesn't do anything for anyone, and certainly does not put money in peoples pocket. The only way to lower fuel costs is for the government to lower the tax. It would probably take a reduction of 5 to 10p per litre before anyone would feel any benefit in a reduction in fuel price. We all know that just won't happen. We were all queuing for fuel years ago as the pumps ran dry because of panic buying as the price topped £1 a litre. Now we just accept spiralling costs as a part of everyday life,
[quote][p][bold]AMVanquish007[/bold] wrote: cmness-Read what I said above-the contractually commited Cineworld was first -not the Odeon which did not commit until months after. As I mentioned, Cineworld has its Unlimited Pass for significant cost savings and has a film booking policy which differs from Odeon on the smaller and arthouse product =plus it has different agreements with alternative programming companies ie Opera, Live Theatre etc. So your boycott line is quite preposterous and having worked in cinemas there IS competitve pricing which is instigated when there is competition amongst rival cinema chains when in close proximity. As for the petrol station when it opens-you watch Tescos bite the bullet and shave the price of unleaded to match Morrisons which will and has always been significantly cheaper nationwide-and you dont have to buy £50 of food to benefit. I remember the price in Gallons before it went to Litres and i can tell you even a 1p litre difference on unleaded or diesel between rival filling stations has a significant effect on a familys tight budget. Were it not for Applegreen in Bythesea Road we would be being charged Devizes prices of £1.34 per litre and not the £1.28 we enjoy at present[/p][/quote]So families on their 'tight budget' will be going out to buy 'unlimited passes'. Perhaps they can save up all of the 1p per litre they may save to buy one. A new petrol station will not start a fuel price war. The margins just aren't there. Independent stations are making next to nothing due to the taxation levels, and having worked in the industry supermarkets cannot lower prices much more or they will be subsidising the cost. In some cases they already do, and in this current economic climate it isn't viable to do so. If you think the price of fuel in trowbridge is being dictated by the applegreen site you are very sadly mistaken. And unless you are spending horrendous amounts of money a week on fuel, 1p a litres price reduction doesn't do anything for anyone, and certainly does not put money in peoples pocket. The only way to lower fuel costs is for the government to lower the tax. It would probably take a reduction of 5 to 10p per litre before anyone would feel any benefit in a reduction in fuel price. We all know that just won't happen. We were all queuing for fuel years ago as the pumps ran dry because of panic buying as the price topped £1 a litre. Now we just accept spiralling costs as a part of everyday life, cmness
  • Score: 4

11:34pm Thu 1 May 14

cmness says...

This is obviously a very emotive subject.

I moved here n 1990, and seen the population spiral. This is the first meaningful development we've seen after years of promise, and years of a pile of rubble. Now we want everything, right now.

I think we're escaping the key point, another supermarket. To go with...

Tesco extra
Sainsburys
Asda
Lidl
Aldi
3 Tesco express
3 coop
Budgens
A plethora of other convenience stores (one stop, jones etc)

Personally I'm more interested in finding a space in a decent secondary school for my kid. Thank god there's one planned for the Ashton Common, its taken 25 years of expansion in trowbridge to realise we need another secondary school. no wonder the ones we have are suffering. Perhaps we should build some more supermarkets for all the people who are going to live at Ashton Common to work in.
This is obviously a very emotive subject. I moved here n 1990, and seen the population spiral. This is the first meaningful development we've seen after years of promise, and years of a pile of rubble. Now we want everything, right now. I think we're escaping the key point, another supermarket. To go with... Tesco extra Sainsburys Asda Lidl Aldi 3 Tesco express 3 coop Budgens A plethora of other convenience stores (one stop, jones etc) Personally I'm more interested in finding a space in a decent secondary school for my kid. Thank god there's one planned for the Ashton Common, its taken 25 years of expansion in trowbridge to realise we need another secondary school. no wonder the ones we have are suffering. Perhaps we should build some more supermarkets for all the people who are going to live at Ashton Common to work in. cmness
  • Score: 3

2:36am Sat 3 May 14

AMVanquish007 says...

Well Cmness--heres the reality-With Cineworlds Unlimited Pass for £16 per month you can see as many films as you want whenever you want.
I dont know about you but thats one hell of a saving in my book.
As for the petrol -superstores with petrol stations have the financial clout to reduce prices but they wont if they are in a monopoly situation.Sometimes a smaller operation like Applegreen CAN reduce the price as they have done and Tescos have certainly countered that.They wouldnt have done if it was just them and BP.
If you remember Morrisons petrol stations did not go on strike as they are supplied by Harvest the same as Applegreen.
And besides they must be making money as theyve refurbished the petrol station with new pumps-even at £1.28
In Devizes there isnt a superstore with a petrol station hence the absurd price of £1.34 per litre.
In Trowbridge its £1.28 as i said--but despite what you say every penny does count. We'd all like to see the tax reduced-at least the coalition has not increased the tax for 2 years and has scrapped the absurd fuel price escalator introduced by the labour party. Otherwise we would have been paying over £1.50 a litre by now.
The difference between Trowbridge and Devizes is a difference of almost 32 p per gallon which a lot of people still think in--and thats a lot of money when it all adds up
Well Cmness--heres the reality-With Cineworlds Unlimited Pass for £16 per month you can see as many films as you want whenever you want. I dont know about you but thats one hell of a saving in my book. As for the petrol -superstores with petrol stations have the financial clout to reduce prices but they wont if they are in a monopoly situation.Sometimes a smaller operation like Applegreen CAN reduce the price as they have done and Tescos have certainly countered that.They wouldnt have done if it was just them and BP. If you remember Morrisons petrol stations did not go on strike as they are supplied by Harvest the same as Applegreen. And besides they must be making money as theyve refurbished the petrol station with new pumps-even at £1.28 In Devizes there isnt a superstore with a petrol station hence the absurd price of £1.34 per litre. In Trowbridge its £1.28 as i said--but despite what you say every penny does count. We'd all like to see the tax reduced-at least the coalition has not increased the tax for 2 years and has scrapped the absurd fuel price escalator introduced by the labour party. Otherwise we would have been paying over £1.50 a litre by now. The difference between Trowbridge and Devizes is a difference of almost 32 p per gallon which a lot of people still think in--and thats a lot of money when it all adds up AMVanquish007
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