Wiltshire Council to axe mini recycling centres

Mini recycling centres will be withdrawn next month

Mini recycling centres will be withdrawn next month

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Wiltshire Council expects to save around £100,000 a year by closing 126 mini recycling centres throughout the county next month.

The council says that, due to the success of its kerbside recycling collections, the recycling banks in car parks and other public spaces are surplus to requirements and will save the council money if they disappeared.

A council spokesman said that households in Wiltshire recycled 68,000 tonnes of their waste last year, 36,000 of which came through the black box and blue bin collections, and only 3,000 tonnes is expected to be disposed of through the mini sites this year.

As a result, the 126 mini recycling sites across the county will be removed, though the larger household recycling centres will remain. Signs informing people of the changes will be displayed from this week and the sites will be removed in early May.

Some recycling banks, mostly for textiles, which are operated by charities, may remain in place.

Coun Toby Sturgis, cabinet member for waste, said: “The kerbside collection of recyclable waste has been extremely successful.

“We are delighted people are using this service and recycling more of their household waste than ever before.

“The amount we pay in landfill tax will increase to £80 per tonne later this year, so every pound we save by recycling more is an extra pound we can spend on vital services in Wiltshire.”

But Liberal Democrat spokesman, Coun Jon Hubbard, said removing the mini recyling centres was a mistake that could end up costing the Wiltshire council tax payer even more in landfill tax.

He said: “This is a regrettable decision. These mini-recycling centres are not units that are not being used. When they are closed the people who use them are more likely to put their waste into landfill collections and the council will have to pay landfill tax on it.”

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4:57pm Mon 31 Mar 14

beetawix says...

thanks for the compliment Mr Sturgis
however you have not commented on the issues arising as has Mr Hubbard.
From my perspective most of the material was going into the mini recycling centres due to insufficient capacity in the black kerbside box .
thanks for the compliment Mr Sturgis however you have not commented on the issues arising as has Mr Hubbard. From my perspective most of the material was going into the mini recycling centres due to insufficient capacity in the black kerbside box . beetawix
  • Score: 14

6:05pm Mon 31 Mar 14

markinmelksham says...

I hope that there will be no penalty for having excess plastic bottles, glass bottles and paper which do not fit into the minescule black box.

The council should provide everyone with a 200L bin (same size as the grey) for everything that can go in the black box.
I hope that there will be no penalty for having excess plastic bottles, glass bottles and paper which do not fit into the minescule black box. The council should provide everyone with a 200L bin (same size as the grey) for everything that can go in the black box. markinmelksham
  • Score: 4

6:10pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Nickthegreek says...

A lazy policy from a lazy council.......
A lazy policy from a lazy council....... Nickthegreek
  • Score: 5

6:15pm Mon 31 Mar 14

beetawix says...

martinmelksham, plastic bottles dont go in the black box. have you been putting them in there?
martinmelksham, plastic bottles dont go in the black box. have you been putting them in there? beetawix
  • Score: 8

6:19pm Mon 31 Mar 14

loosewoman says...

If the neighbourhood recycling centres aren't being used, why was the paper bank down the road stuffed full when I put a boxful in it last week?
Also, I often have paper for recycling where I work, and it's not collected there. I've been taking it away and putting it in the paper bank, because there's too much to fit in my own black box. Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?
If the neighbourhood recycling centres aren't being used, why was the paper bank down the road stuffed full when I put a boxful in it last week? Also, I often have paper for recycling where I work, and it's not collected there. I've been taking it away and putting it in the paper bank, because there's too much to fit in my own black box. Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it? loosewoman
  • Score: 10

6:33pm Mon 31 Mar 14

the optimist says...

"Wiltshire Council expects to save around £100,000 a year by closing 126 mini recycling centres throughout the county next month".

I assume Cllr Sturgis doesn't live near a lane that gets regularly fly tipped.

I anticipate the cost of rubbish from such sites will rise above the 3100,000 saved?

I say open more sites and do the job that we are paying Wiltshire Council for?
"Wiltshire Council expects to save around £100,000 a year by closing 126 mini recycling centres throughout the county next month". I assume Cllr Sturgis doesn't live near a lane that gets regularly fly tipped. I anticipate the cost of rubbish from such sites will rise above the 3100,000 saved? I say open more sites and do the job that we are paying Wiltshire Council for? the optimist
  • Score: 14

7:44pm Mon 31 Mar 14

beetawix says...

why not introduce some sensible targets and stop producing all this junk.
there is no need to eat from tins,
beer should be drunk from barrels not one time use throwaway bottles
paper should be sent back to whoever sent it to you
why not introduce some sensible targets and stop producing all this junk. there is no need to eat from tins, beer should be drunk from barrels not one time use throwaway bottles paper should be sent back to whoever sent it to you beetawix
  • Score: -5

8:56pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Terry Chivers says...

For once I agree closing these will save money but they must get there act together getting out black boxes and new bins to residents Im chasing a case when a resident has been waiting over 3 months
For once I agree closing these will save money but they must get there act together getting out black boxes and new bins to residents Im chasing a case when a resident has been waiting over 3 months Terry Chivers
  • Score: 1

9:12pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Atthefootofthestairs says...

So LooseWoman, you're disposing of commercial waste illegally? There are companies who will come to your premises and shred your company's waste on site.
So LooseWoman, you're disposing of commercial waste illegally? There are companies who will come to your premises and shred your company's waste on site. Atthefootofthestairs
  • Score: 3

9:15pm Mon 31 Mar 14

allthedecentnameshavegone says...

loosewoman wrote:
If the neighbourhood recycling centres aren't being used, why was the paper bank down the road stuffed full when I put a boxful in it last week?
Also, I often have paper for recycling where I work, and it's not collected there. I've been taking it away and putting it in the paper bank, because there's too much to fit in my own black box. Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?
" Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?" Actually, by disposing of this waste in your own black box and the mini-recycling sites, your business is committing an offence. Your employer has a duty to dispose of their waste, including paper, through a registered waste handler - see the link below for details.

http://www.wiltshire
.gov.uk/rubbishandre
cycling/rubbishcomme
rcialwaste/rubbishco
mmercialwastedutyofc
are.htm
[quote][p][bold]loosewoman[/bold] wrote: If the neighbourhood recycling centres aren't being used, why was the paper bank down the road stuffed full when I put a boxful in it last week? Also, I often have paper for recycling where I work, and it's not collected there. I've been taking it away and putting it in the paper bank, because there's too much to fit in my own black box. Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?[/p][/quote]" Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?" Actually, by disposing of this waste in your own black box and the mini-recycling sites, your business is committing an offence. Your employer has a duty to dispose of their waste, including paper, through a registered waste handler - see the link below for details. http://www.wiltshire .gov.uk/rubbishandre cycling/rubbishcomme rcialwaste/rubbishco mmercialwastedutyofc are.htm allthedecentnameshavegone
  • Score: 7

9:20pm Mon 31 Mar 14

kimcrawley says...

I went to use the paper recycling facility in Wood lane car park today, it was overflowing and completely full. An elderly lady commented upon the mess as she struggled to recycle her papers.
Terry Chivers you are wrong this will not save money, all that will happen is more mess, costing more to rectify in the long run. Scott and her cabinet are adopting a series of stupid policies that will leave a legacy of crappy public services carried out by grasping private contractors without any accountability.
The whole black box recycling scheme is a failure, evidenced by the use of paper and bottle banks. Where will all the glass and paper go, when the box is full people will put it in general waste. Then we will need weekly collections again.
The stupidity of this cut is beyond belief, how much will the increased use of landfill cost?
I went to use the paper recycling facility in Wood lane car park today, it was overflowing and completely full. An elderly lady commented upon the mess as she struggled to recycle her papers. Terry Chivers you are wrong this will not save money, all that will happen is more mess, costing more to rectify in the long run. Scott and her cabinet are adopting a series of stupid policies that will leave a legacy of crappy public services carried out by grasping private contractors without any accountability. The whole black box recycling scheme is a failure, evidenced by the use of paper and bottle banks. Where will all the glass and paper go, when the box is full people will put it in general waste. Then we will need weekly collections again. The stupidity of this cut is beyond belief, how much will the increased use of landfill cost? kimcrawley
  • Score: 11

10:33pm Mon 31 Mar 14

melkshamwizard says...

my moan is about the mess around them full overflowing, wrong stuff in them.
walk round by the pig&whistle car park in melksham you will see what I mean
my moan is about the mess around them full overflowing, wrong stuff in them. walk round by the pig&whistle car park in melksham you will see what I mean melkshamwizard
  • Score: 4

12:51am Tue 1 Apr 14

kimcrawley says...

melkshamwizard
The unitary authority has a legal duty to ensure that these areas are safe, a collection of wrongly dumped items suggests that an alternative approach to providing disposal is necessary. Why would people in Melksham go out of their way to dispose these items there. Perhaps we need to look at providing safe disposal for all items that should not be in the household waste.
As a community we should be trying to spend more money to ensure that people are able to recycle and dispose of oil, paint and other harmful substances, without resorting to landfill.
What is the point of inconveniencing thousands of people whilst damaging the environment so that Scott et al can pretend they are doing a good job by reducing the increase in council tax.
Live in a dump so that the tories can pretend they 'care'. LOL
melkshamwizard The unitary authority has a legal duty to ensure that these areas are safe, a collection of wrongly dumped items suggests that an alternative approach to providing disposal is necessary. Why would people in Melksham go out of their way to dispose these items there. Perhaps we need to look at providing safe disposal for all items that should not be in the household waste. As a community we should be trying to spend more money to ensure that people are able to recycle and dispose of oil, paint and other harmful substances, without resorting to landfill. What is the point of inconveniencing thousands of people whilst damaging the environment so that Scott et al can pretend they are doing a good job by reducing the increase in council tax. Live in a dump so that the tories can pretend they 'care'. LOL kimcrawley
  • Score: 3

1:11am Tue 1 Apr 14

beetawix says...

melkshamwizard wrote:
my moan is about the mess around them full overflowing, wrong stuff in them.
walk round by the pig&whistle car park in melksham you will see what I mean
if a skip is full one can't put any more into it.
do they just hold stuff against the side and let go........hence the apparent overflowing
[quote][p][bold]melkshamwizard[/bold] wrote: my moan is about the mess around them full overflowing, wrong stuff in them. walk round by the pig&whistle car park in melksham you will see what I mean[/p][/quote]if a skip is full one can't put any more into it. do they just hold stuff against the side and let go........hence the apparent overflowing beetawix
  • Score: 3

8:13am Tue 1 Apr 14

Fieldofdaisies says...

We're not limited to a single black box, you can get another one from the council (sorry can't remember if it was free or chargeable). Our lovely bin men collect our recyclables from a number of boxes and bags - one neighbour even uses an old plant pot!
We're not limited to a single black box, you can get another one from the council (sorry can't remember if it was free or chargeable). Our lovely bin men collect our recyclables from a number of boxes and bags - one neighbour even uses an old plant pot! Fieldofdaisies
  • Score: 10

10:50am Tue 1 Apr 14

Grumpyoldgit99 says...

The black box has never been big enough from day 1. All paper and junk mail coming into my house goes into a black plastic sack which I leave out next to the box as it won't fit. Fortunately the bin men do take it away. I suspect I could fill the box just with the junk mail!
The black box has never been big enough from day 1. All paper and junk mail coming into my house goes into a black plastic sack which I leave out next to the box as it won't fit. Fortunately the bin men do take it away. I suspect I could fill the box just with the junk mail! Grumpyoldgit99
  • Score: 3

11:29am Tue 1 Apr 14

Harry_Collier says...

allthedecentnameshav
egone
wrote:
loosewoman wrote:
If the neighbourhood recycling centres aren't being used, why was the paper bank down the road stuffed full when I put a boxful in it last week?
Also, I often have paper for recycling where I work, and it's not collected there. I've been taking it away and putting it in the paper bank, because there's too much to fit in my own black box. Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?
" Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?" Actually, by disposing of this waste in your own black box and the mini-recycling sites, your business is committing an offence. Your employer has a duty to dispose of their waste, including paper, through a registered waste handler - see the link below for details.

http://www.wiltshire

.gov.uk/rubbishandre

cycling/rubbishcomme

rcialwaste/rubbishco

mmercialwastedutyofc

are.htm
But businesses pay rates, the same as everyone else. It's just they they don't get back much from the council in return.
[quote][p][bold]allthedecentnameshav egone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosewoman[/bold] wrote: If the neighbourhood recycling centres aren't being used, why was the paper bank down the road stuffed full when I put a boxful in it last week? Also, I often have paper for recycling where I work, and it's not collected there. I've been taking it away and putting it in the paper bank, because there's too much to fit in my own black box. Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?[/p][/quote]" Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?" Actually, by disposing of this waste in your own black box and the mini-recycling sites, your business is committing an offence. Your employer has a duty to dispose of their waste, including paper, through a registered waste handler - see the link below for details. http://www.wiltshire .gov.uk/rubbishandre cycling/rubbishcomme rcialwaste/rubbishco mmercialwastedutyofc are.htm[/p][/quote]But businesses pay rates, the same as everyone else. It's just they they don't get back much from the council in return. Harry_Collier
  • Score: 0

11:34am Tue 1 Apr 14

Harry_Collier says...

allthedecentnameshav
egone
wrote:
loosewoman wrote:
If the neighbourhood recycling centres aren't being used, why was the paper bank down the road stuffed full when I put a boxful in it last week?
Also, I often have paper for recycling where I work, and it's not collected there. I've been taking it away and putting it in the paper bank, because there's too much to fit in my own black box. Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?
" Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?" Actually, by disposing of this waste in your own black box and the mini-recycling sites, your business is committing an offence. Your employer has a duty to dispose of their waste, including paper, through a registered waste handler - see the link below for details.

http://www.wiltshire

.gov.uk/rubbishandre

cycling/rubbishcomme

rcialwaste/rubbishco

mmercialwastedutyofc

are.htm
Taxes remain, services decrease. Potholes increase. Many of us living in flats do not have "kerbside re-cycling" because we do not have kerbs! Paper, bottle and cardboard banks, in particular, serve a valuable purpose; thus their popularity with the general population.
[quote][p][bold]allthedecentnameshav egone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosewoman[/bold] wrote: If the neighbourhood recycling centres aren't being used, why was the paper bank down the road stuffed full when I put a boxful in it last week? Also, I often have paper for recycling where I work, and it's not collected there. I've been taking it away and putting it in the paper bank, because there's too much to fit in my own black box. Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?[/p][/quote]" Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?" Actually, by disposing of this waste in your own black box and the mini-recycling sites, your business is committing an offence. Your employer has a duty to dispose of their waste, including paper, through a registered waste handler - see the link below for details. http://www.wiltshire .gov.uk/rubbishandre cycling/rubbishcomme rcialwaste/rubbishco mmercialwastedutyofc are.htm[/p][/quote]Taxes remain, services decrease. Potholes increase. Many of us living in flats do not have "kerbside re-cycling" because we do not have kerbs! Paper, bottle and cardboard banks, in particular, serve a valuable purpose; thus their popularity with the general population. Harry_Collier
  • Score: 5

11:35am Tue 1 Apr 14

loosewoman says...

allthedecentnameshav
egone
wrote:
loosewoman wrote:
If the neighbourhood recycling centres aren't being used, why was the paper bank down the road stuffed full when I put a boxful in it last week?
Also, I often have paper for recycling where I work, and it's not collected there. I've been taking it away and putting it in the paper bank, because there's too much to fit in my own black box. Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?
" Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?" Actually, by disposing of this waste in your own black box and the mini-recycling sites, your business is committing an offence. Your employer has a duty to dispose of their waste, including paper, through a registered waste handler - see the link below for details.

http://www.wiltshire

.gov.uk/rubbishandre

cycling/rubbishcomme

rcialwaste/rubbishco

mmercialwastedutyofc

are.htm
First of all, I don't work for a commercial company, I work on my own in an outpost of, yes, Wiltshire Council, and the amount of waste generated is not huge, and certainly not enough to warrant paying a company to dispose of, the Council wouldn't pay it and the company would just laugh. It's simply a lot easier, and free, to take it to the paper bank fifty yards down the road.

Secondly, until I started the job, all that waste was just dumped in the bin. So I considered that by recycling it, I was doing my bit. Now you're telling me I'm committing an offence - or rather that Wiltshire Council are committing an offence.

Shall I tell them? Decisions, decisions ...
[quote][p][bold]allthedecentnameshav egone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosewoman[/bold] wrote: If the neighbourhood recycling centres aren't being used, why was the paper bank down the road stuffed full when I put a boxful in it last week? Also, I often have paper for recycling where I work, and it's not collected there. I've been taking it away and putting it in the paper bank, because there's too much to fit in my own black box. Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?[/p][/quote]" Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?" Actually, by disposing of this waste in your own black box and the mini-recycling sites, your business is committing an offence. Your employer has a duty to dispose of their waste, including paper, through a registered waste handler - see the link below for details. http://www.wiltshire .gov.uk/rubbishandre cycling/rubbishcomme rcialwaste/rubbishco mmercialwastedutyofc are.htm[/p][/quote]First of all, I don't work for a commercial company, I work on my own in an outpost of, yes, Wiltshire Council, and the amount of waste generated is not huge, and certainly not enough to warrant paying a company to dispose of, the Council wouldn't pay it and the company would just laugh. It's simply a lot easier, and free, to take it to the paper bank fifty yards down the road. Secondly, until I started the job, all that waste was just dumped in the bin. So I considered that by recycling it, I was doing my bit. Now you're telling me I'm committing an offence - or rather that Wiltshire Council are committing an offence. Shall I tell them? Decisions, decisions ... loosewoman
  • Score: 2

11:50am Tue 1 Apr 14

Grumpyoldgit99 says...

Loosewoman

Err. Yes. You and Wiltshire Council are commiting an offence by dumping commercial waste in recycling areas designed for residential waste.

There are signs about this all over these sites with threats of heavy fines if you disregard them.

Under the provisions of the Environmental Protection Act (1990) your businesses must produce duty of care documents to prove they are disposing of waste correctly. Otherwise you can be subject to a fine. I would point out that Wiltshire Council writes threatening letters along this line to businesses and I doubt whether they would exempt their own premises.

I refer you to the Wiltshire Council web page which points this out. It even gives as an example the person who takes black sacks home with them. Like it or not, you are currently commiting an offence that is subject to a £300 fine.

http://www.wiltshire
.gov.uk/rubbishandre
cycling/rubbishcomme
rcialwaste/rubbishco
mmercialwastedutyofc
are.htm
Loosewoman Err. Yes. You and Wiltshire Council are commiting an offence by dumping commercial waste in recycling areas designed for residential waste. There are signs about this all over these sites with threats of heavy fines if you disregard them. Under the provisions of the Environmental Protection Act (1990) your businesses must produce duty of care documents to prove they are disposing of waste correctly. Otherwise you can be subject to a fine. I would point out that Wiltshire Council writes threatening letters along this line to businesses and I doubt whether they would exempt their own premises. I refer you to the Wiltshire Council web page which points this out. It even gives as an example the person who takes black sacks home with them. Like it or not, you are currently commiting an offence that is subject to a £300 fine. http://www.wiltshire .gov.uk/rubbishandre cycling/rubbishcomme rcialwaste/rubbishco mmercialwastedutyofc are.htm Grumpyoldgit99
  • Score: 5

1:25pm Tue 1 Apr 14

allthedecentnameshavegone says...

loosewoman wrote:
allthedecentnameshav

egone
wrote:
loosewoman wrote:
If the neighbourhood recycling centres aren't being used, why was the paper bank down the road stuffed full when I put a boxful in it last week?
Also, I often have paper for recycling where I work, and it's not collected there. I've been taking it away and putting it in the paper bank, because there's too much to fit in my own black box. Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?" Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?"First of all, I don't work for a commercial company, I work on my own in an outpost of, yes, Wiltshire Council, and the amount of waste generated is not huge,"

The link I included makes it clear that even small business run from home are subject to the same requirements - you are committing an offence by disposing of this waste through anything other than a licensed waste management company.

Are there any other laws you feel entitled to break, or any other legislation you feel entitled to ignore purely because you work on your own? When is a company sufficiently large that you think it has to operate within the law - when it employs 2 people, 10 people, 100, 1000?
[quote][p][bold]loosewoman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allthedecentnameshav egone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosewoman[/bold] wrote: If the neighbourhood recycling centres aren't being used, why was the paper bank down the road stuffed full when I put a boxful in it last week? Also, I often have paper for recycling where I work, and it's not collected there. I've been taking it away and putting it in the paper bank, because there's too much to fit in my own black box. Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?[/p][/quote]" Now what am I supposed to do with it, just dump it?"First of all, I don't work for a commercial company, I work on my own in an outpost of, yes, Wiltshire Council, and the amount of waste generated is not huge," The link I included makes it clear that even small business run from home are subject to the same requirements - you are committing an offence by disposing of this waste through anything other than a licensed waste management company. Are there any other laws you feel entitled to break, or any other legislation you feel entitled to ignore purely because you work on your own? When is a company sufficiently large that you think it has to operate within the law - when it employs 2 people, 10 people, 100, 1000? allthedecentnameshavegone
  • Score: 0

5:42am Wed 2 Apr 14

politepanda says...

So - if the mini recycling centre containers are all full to overflowing - why are they being closed??? "Surplus to requirements"??
They're being closed because the black bin kerb collections are so successful??
This would be laughable if it hadn't come from a Wiltshire council "spokesperson".
So - if the mini recycling centre containers are all full to overflowing - why are they being closed??? "Surplus to requirements"?? They're being closed because the black bin kerb collections are so successful?? This would be laughable if it hadn't come from a Wiltshire council "spokesperson". politepanda
  • Score: 5

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